HLG Saber vs Amare SB800, Wedding cake RDWC

Mikenike

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Good day! Was wondering if there was any difference in the main stalks? Diameter n such.
Any plan for capped out wattage or is that plant response dependent?
by the looks of it the stalks all look similar but I’ll go take measurements later today and no I don’t have a cap for wattage, I’m actually about to raise the lights and turn the power up a bit within the next couple days just to be safe when I’m gone. Don’t want them growing past the lights.


Looking good brother.
Did you go over the details on your rdwc? Air pumps, Chiller, etc?
Hey man, I’m not sure I did but it’s a 30g system with 32g top off res, danner ap-100 air pump with a single 6in air stone each site, 1hp water chiller. Chiller is so big because it chills a 55g water tank which I use to cool my whole tent since it’s “sealed” to preserve co2, and chills the res with a wort chiller.
Are you running both plants sides off the same reservoir?
They look nice.
yessir all 8 sites on the same res/feed
 

Mikenike

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I got this off of Photonic LED. Is your SB 800 a newer model . Seems light has a lot more blue.
The one in the pic you posted looks to be the solar spec-c which is more of a primary flowering light. The one I have is the canna spec which is more of a start-finish spectrum. iirc the solar spec-c is around 2500k while the canna spec is around 3700k.
Hey @hybridway2 did you ever get to amare about the canna spec spectrum? Since the one listed on ledgrowlights.com is missing the 470nm spike?
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
The one in the pic you posted looks to be the solar spec-c which is more of a primary flowering light. The one I have is the canna spec which is more of a start-finish spectrum. iirc the solar spec-c is around 2500k while the canna spec is around 3700k.
Hey @hybridway2 did you ever get to amare about the canna spec spectrum? Since the one listed on ledgrowlights.com is missing the 470nm spike?
Yes i did? I Think. Do not remember the response to that one. IMO its prob pretty close & the spectrometer used prob isnt as defined as the ones I've seen from Amare using their tools.
 

Where am I

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The one in the pic you posted looks to be the solar spec-c which is more of a primary flowering light. The one I have is the canna spec which is more of a start-finish spectrum. iirc the solar spec-c is around 2500k while the canna spec is around 3700k.
Hey @hybridway2 did you ever get to amare about the canna spec spectrum? Since the one listed on ledgrowlights.com is missing the 470nm spike?
Thanks for the clearing that up for me. So it has a bit more blue. I remember my first cfl setup were 2100 K & 6500 K respectively.
 

OneHitDone

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by the looks of it the stalks all look similar but I’ll go take measurements later today and no I don’t have a cap for wattage, I’m actually about to raise the lights and turn the power up a bit within the next couple days just to be safe when I’m gone. Don’t want them growing past the lights.



Hey man, I’m not sure I did but it’s a 30g system with 32g top off res, danner ap-100 air pump with a single 6in air stone each site, 1hp water chiller. Chiller is so big because it chills a 55g water tank which I use to cool my whole tent since it’s “sealed” to preserve co2, and chills the res with a wort chiller.

yessir all 8 sites on the same res/feed
I've never ran a chiller like that. Is it pretty hard on the wallet?
 

Mikenike

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Okay so both sides still doing well. As said before I was away on vacay and things got a little out of hand. Ph/ec was out of whack for about a week and had high temps for 2 days as well. Both sides have lights as high as they can go, getting around 1100ppfd at the tops and still need to finish defol on the Amare side.

Observations: both main stalks are similar in size but Hlg side has more skinny/weak branches and suckers. I snipped everything under the top net and all weak branches that couldn’t hold its weight. The Amare side has also started bulking up more than the hlg side already, although it did seem like Amare started/finished stretch first as well. Frost looks pretty similar so far

HLG 660w
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Amare 725w
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hybridway2

Amare Shill
Here’s a much better hlg bud. Amare still slightly in the lead in my book but not by as much as I thought yesterday. Upped wattage to 800w/Amare and 700w/hlg. 1500ppm Co2 and around 1200ppfd. 600ppm nutes 86f and 65%rh
600ppm hu! Nice job! Same differences i see but my protos stretch allot more being about even with the Canna-Spec. Probably due to the mucho 660 red in my protos.
Wait till wk 6-8 when the colors set in.
Look's like the Amare bud has double stacked the other. Nice!
 
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hybridway2

Amare Shill
From top of pot to the 2nd net is 29in now. I raised it around 6-7in when I defoliated since it stretched a little out of hand
You're doing a great job. No LedDefficiency, no Learning curve, no $1000 nutrient profile, just all out great job & clean de-fo bro.
Wonderful representation of both fixtures.
Make me wanna step up my side by side game! Lol! Have a great day Pizon!
 

Mikenike

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Halfway through week 7. Dropping parameters now. Both sides getting 900-1000ppfd and co2 700ppm, nutes 500ppm. Looks like Amare has more fatter colas but shorter. Not much color on both sides yet.

Amare
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Mikenike

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hlg side has longer/fuller colas but are slightly skinnier. Hlg also has more clusters of side branch branches which have all tipped over under its own weight. Both side are pretty similar/even but if I had to pick I’d side with Amare at the moment
HLG
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