Hillary can't be trusted

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Fogdog said:
I admit that I don't know what Hillsborough is and don't really feel like looking it up. If you want to, you may use my words and have fun with them. So, go ahead, I'm listening. Can you manage to say something that sticks to facts for more than a few sentences?
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oh fer fucks sake you dudes never stop crying,if I elaborate I get the tldr bullshit,I keep it short & its not enough lol
 
Fogdog said:
I admit that I don't know what Hillsborough is and don't really feel like looking it up. If you want to, you may use my words and have fun with them. So, go ahead, I'm listening. Can you manage to say something that sticks to facts for more than a few sentences?
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Hillsborough disaster: FA cup match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest 1989.

Police opened the gates to allow fans into the ground as many were still outside before kick off.

The design of the stadium was poor and there had been several historic near misses there.

96 Liverpool fans were crushed to death...rip

The media, police, politicians, ambulance service and legal system all colluded in blaming the victims for the tragedy.

This is a VERY abbreviated version of events.

Point is, people believed the establishment...until the weight of evidence and sheer persistence of the victims families and their supporters brought about an apology from the PM and reopened the enquiry where all the victims were exonerated and the behaviour of the establishment was highlighted.
 
Illinois Enema Bandit said:
what they hide from & fail to address is how weal they are alone & speaking only in fact,



Not an historic event ?

where the hell have u been hiding at,oh I forgot if its not on MSNBC it wasn't a major event :lol:
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Bro you're the head up your ass, fucking numbskull idiot who talks about how trump won the 2nd debate and he's doing well in the polls???? Only a fucking idiot states easily proven false statements and then criticizes someone for using corporate media. YOURE A FUCKING PREPOSTEROUS CLOWN.
 
Fogdog said:
Is Trump not a tremendous liar? He's a great liar. The very best of all liars. People say. Trust me

The Politifact link covered both candidates. Put another way,

Trump: 12 % of statements rated "completely true"; Clinton: 65% of statements rated "completely true"

While you are 100% naive
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"I have a vagina. I'm going to improve the economy" 50% true. Still a complete lie.
 
Rizlared said:
Hillsborough disaster: FA cup match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest 1989.

Police opened the gates to allow fans into the ground as many were still outside before kick off.

The design of the stadium was poor and there had been several historic near misses there.

96 Liverpool fans were crushed to death...rip

The media, police, politicians, ambulance service and legal system all colluded in blaming the victims for the tragedy.

This is a VERY abbreviated version of events.

Point is, people believed the establishment...until the weight of evidence and sheer persistence of the victims families and their supporters brought about an apology from the PM and reopened the enquiry where all the victims were exonerated and the behaviour of the establishment was highlighted.
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appealing to @zeddd to grab your your bitch pussy ass and put it on straight.
 
Rizlared said:
'Conspiracies' have nothing to do with people of almost superhuman power.

The definition of conspiracy is two or more people meeting in private to do something illegal or bad.

Now, to suggest that the above doesn't happen would indeed be naive.

Google Hillsborough, you'll find the government lied and blamed the victims for the tragedy.

The point I was trying to make is...how can anyone dismiss all 'conspiracies' as being the same?

That is ridiculous.

Now I believe man landed on the moon

I believe the world is round

I view every conspiracy on its individual merits, I balance the facts and form an unbiased opinion based on those facts....and based on FACTS you'd have to be severely naive to believe the 9/11 commission report.

If you can be arsed, which I'm sure you can't, you tube war by deception.

Watch what decent investigative journalism can do and try and make the 9/11 commission report fit those facts.

They do not.
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I'm not interested in reading up on Hillsborough but you've told me all I need to know about it. Just guessing: it was a botched job by an administrator who lied to protect his reputation. The cover up failed because too many people knew the facts and eventually they came out.

Just saying that the term "conspiracy theory" has several meanings, from the vile but not uncommon cover up made by authorities or corporations to protect their money and jobs to the wild ass impossible conspiracy theories that are constructed to explain a truly historic event, like the moon landing, the collapse of the Twin Towers or the assassination of JFK.

I am not naive to look at the reasons given in the 911 report and compare them to the ones used to deny that report. From a factual point of view, the reasons given by 911 conspiracy theorists are false. Facts are verifiable. The reasons given by deniers don't meet that criteria.
 
rkymtnman said:
um sorry mr. clees but you have to bet 500 in vegas to win a 100 that hillary is the president. according to fox news, that's great for #gropetrump
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Thanks for calling me Mr! Actually the correct numbers:
Next President of the United States of America
Odds as of October 13 at Bovada

  • Hillary Clinton -650
  • Donald Trump +400
 
testiclees said:
Thanks for calling me Mr! Actually the correct numbers:
Next President of the United States of America
Odds as of October 13 at Bovada

  • Hillary Clinton -650
  • Donald Trump +400
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well, you basterd! i should have got in when it was only +500 for Drumpf. you cost me a small forture. luckily,, i'll go bankrupt on it
 
The energy throughout several of these threads has been sickening today.....need a second shower to wash away the enema/red/choom/etc....
(shudder)
 
Fogdog said:
I'm not interested in reading up on Hillsborough but you've told me all I need to know about it. Just guessing: it was a botched job by an administrator who lied to protect his reputation. The cover up failed because too many people knew the facts and eventually they came out.

Just saying that the term "conspiracy theory" has several meanings, from the vile but not uncommon cover up made by authorities or corporations to protect their money and jobs to the wild ass impossible conspiracy theories that are constructed to explain a truly historic event, like the moon landing, the collapse of the Twin Towers or the assassination of JFK.

I am not naive to look at the reasons given in the 911 report and compare them to the ones used to deny that report. From a factual point of view, the reasons given by 911 conspiracy theorists are false. Facts are verifiable. The reasons given by deniers don't meet that criteria.
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Massive sweeping statements and generalisations there.

You speak as though all those who don't believe the establishment all say the same things and speak with one voice.

This is not the case.

Personally, I stick to facts, if it isn't a fact I don't use it.

Fact, the pancake theory CAN NOT be responsible for the falling of those three buildings according to the law of falling objects.

Verifiable

Now, clearly you have a prejudiced view on the subject and it's a waste of my time trying to enlighten you

9/11 isn't impossible to make happen by deception.

I am 80% certain of what happened...based on facts

I am 100% certain of what didn't happen
 
Fogdog said:
I'm not interested in reading up on Hillsborough but you've told me all I need to know about it. Just guessing: it was a botched job by an administrator who lied to protect his reputation. The cover up failed because too many people knew the facts and eventually they came out.

Just saying that the term "conspiracy theory" has several meanings, from the vile but not uncommon cover up made by authorities or corporations to protect their money and jobs to the wild ass impossible conspiracy theories that are constructed to explain a truly historic event, like the moon landing, the collapse of the Twin Towers or the assassination of JFK.

I am not naive to look at the reasons given in the 911 report and compare them to the ones used to deny that report. From a factual point of view, the reasons given by 911 conspiracy theorists are false. Facts are verifiable. The reasons given by deniers don't meet that criteria.
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and if you have to 'guess' why bother saying anything?
 
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