hi brix molassas

this hi brix stuff smells so damn good compared to blackstrap. i was told it was the stuff wineries use. just wanted to say.

Good stuff.

I get it at the feed store for $8/gallon.

Wet

no shit. got one around the corner. have to check it out. thanks wet, good lookin.

Do you have a Tractor Supply around?

Wet

So you can use that in place of black strap? Theres a tractor supply right around the corner from me. 8$ a gallon is nice

ya i do a couple in fact. What do they use it for or sell it for? agricultural use's?

As a deer attractant, for hunters. LOL

Read the label closely and it is nothing but feed grade hi brix molasses.

But yes, the feed grade is what's usually used for agricultural applications.

It's a bit cheaper if you get the 5 gallon pail, but the 1 gallon is just easier to handle and you don't need a smaller container to work with like the 5 gal.

Wet

Is the molasses as affective when used with synthetic ferts?

green as grass said:

Is the molasses as affective when used with synthetic ferts?

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I could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt, but this is just what I have gathered through research, I don't have enough experience to say for sure.

Molasses is used in organics to feed the Mycorrhizai, which are fungus that lives on plant roots and feeds the roots nutrients, in return the plants feed the mycorrhizai sugars. By adding molasses to your water you are feeding the fungus more sugars which in turn builds them up to feed your plants.

With synthetics you don't have any thing living in your soil so your just pouring the molasses in and washing it out.


Can any one back this up?

Your right as far as what I have read in "Teaming With Microbes"
But the sugars in hydro would also act as carbohydrates in return adding more weight to yield.
Then again not totally sure but my thoughts, since all these carbo loads and sugar this and thats that the hydro suppliers are selling is basically same ish.

green as grass said:

Is the molasses as affective when used with synthetic ferts?

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Molasses has no noticeable effect whatever I have found. Waste of time and money.

Fluxcap said:

I could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt, but this is just what I have gathered through research, I don't have enough experience to say for sure.

Molasses is used in organics to feed the Mycorrhizai, which are fungus that lives on plant roots and feeds the roots nutrients, in return the plants feed the mycorrhizai sugars. By adding molasses to your water you are feeding the fungus more sugars which in turn builds them up to feed your plants.

With synthetics you don't have any thing living in your soil so your just pouring the molasses in and washing it out.


Can any one back this up?

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You are correct sir, while I cannot back you up with peer reviewed scientific literature (bc i have not looked). I can say that theoretically, and from my experience, that feeding molasses can have great positive affects on microbe life and plant vigor.

The when I brew tea I use molasses. When I water soluble food I use molasses. I pretty much use it all through to feed the soil life.

By directly feeding the soil life you are helping the plant to take advantage of a mutualistic relationship, and turn it into a symbiotic relationship that is in the plants favor. Normally, the plants/root hugger trade with each other. The root huggers get carbs from the plant in exchange for the work they do in expanding the roots exponentially and breaking down slow release. Now, if you feed the root huggers they do not have to "steal" carbs from the plant, yet the plant gets feed by the root huggers either way.

post edit: and ten bucks per round for molasses is nothing compared to the increased yield and vigor that it brings to the table. it is an investment that pays back exponentially.

molasses is used to feed organic soil but in third phase of floral maturity the krebs makes use of the exttra carbohydrates (sugars) its how a plant uses ATP now why is high brix molasses better then reg molasses well their is actually a brix content in your buds that you can check by getting this outrageous sounding instrument but yah brix if VERY important to the plant

green as grass said:

Your right as far as what I have read in "Teaming With Microbes"
But the sugars in hydro would also act as carbohydrates in return adding more weight to yield.
Then again not totally sure but my thoughts, since all these carbo loads and sugar this and thats that the hydro suppliers are selling is basically same ish.

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I read the same thing (every grower should read Teaming With Microbes) but in practice, one grow using diluted blackstrap molasses and another grow without, same strain/grow medium, I didn't determine any difference in size or yield. I now limit molasses usage to AACT brews.

i use sucanat it has a higher brix than blackstrap and madodah it does feed the microbes but honestly the only time you really need to add sugars to improve taste/yield is third phase of floral maturity the krebs cycle cannot take use of the extra carbs till then

It amazes me how the WWW guides me right back to where I started when googling Hi-Brix, ROLLITUP.org! Some great info here folks. I just started using Hi-Brix to feed my subculture. I did a side by side soil comparison thread which has started to evolve into a subculture conversation. If your bored check it out and feel free to comment.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/391100-seedling-soil-side-side-comparison.html