Big Perm
Well-Known Member
I posted this in another thread, but deleted it because that wasn't fair to the OP. I made this one instead.
Hot topic around here for some growers at least is HGL. I remember when Dyna-Gro first showed up, what the drama was like. Does anyone else? Anyway, this was the post, it had quotes, but I took them out.
Everyone. She puts her phone number out there. Pick up the phone and call her. You don't have to tell her your screen name.
I can see that a lot of people are pre-judging. People that have never talked to her, or ran her gear.
I've talked to her on the phone, and Steve. Email, text, phone. They are both cool as hell people.
All I'm saying is give people a chance.
I've got no problems with anyone. Haven't pissed off any of the manufacturers, nor have I given them any reason to in any business.
I don't see why these can't be friendly competitions between competitors. The manufacturers aren't arguing with each other. Why people have so much hatred, I don't understand. Yes there are a lot of stories out there. There are also two sides to a story. There are also disgruntled customers for whatever reason. Some are a little crazier than others, just saying I've seen it myself.
A few members here I see are hating with such blind passion, it's crazy. Almost crazy enough to me that it is possible that a few people might go above and beyond, and actually try to take the person down. I can name a few members right here that have sworn that oath, actually. (I see it with Dyna-Gro and other companies, too and so do you)
These people have never spoken to her, and have never ran her gear. Why the hatred?
I really don't get it. Yes I have read everything that anyone can post up here. There are also a lot of things they are not posting, like her side of the story. 10 years to be in business under the same name, that's not a scammer.
She obviously knows the law, and is good with contracts, as any smart business person would be, I would think. If you don't read the contract, you're kind of fucked in any business transaction. After someone feels like they got burnt, it quickly starts to turn into a scam.
What is the scam anyway? Has anyone asked? I am now. What's the scam?
Here is an example:
Someone sees a light on her site, wants to buy it and does. Gets it, thinks whatever of it, and wants to send it back within the 120 days. They are going to get 100% of their money back, correct? You'd better read that return policy, or you are going to be running around yelling scammer, because the answer is no but it was right there the whole time.
For RIU members, from the very beginning she said that she truly will make it a 100% risk free trial, and you won't pay a penny if you return the lights. Hell she's even sending shipping labels out for them to be sent back to her right now from someone. (Also, if you don't send the lights back that's stealing. It's over $500 or whatever, so it's not small claims court, it is theft. What happens when you are in possession of stolen products and the owner of those products knows where the products are? I don't have to connect too many dots, but the law gets involved at some point. A house visit will probably be made, at a minimum. Just saying.)
You could even say they are the best lights I've ever seen, but I want my money back....Done. Don't feel safe having it mailed to your house? Come on guys how do you get your seeds when you are feeling paranoid? Do that then.
My point....what was my point....sorry smoked about halfway through. Now that this is here though, I can come back to it.
Hot topic around here for some growers at least is HGL. I remember when Dyna-Gro first showed up, what the drama was like. Does anyone else? Anyway, this was the post, it had quotes, but I took them out.
Everyone. She puts her phone number out there. Pick up the phone and call her. You don't have to tell her your screen name.
I can see that a lot of people are pre-judging. People that have never talked to her, or ran her gear.
I've talked to her on the phone, and Steve. Email, text, phone. They are both cool as hell people.
All I'm saying is give people a chance.
I've got no problems with anyone. Haven't pissed off any of the manufacturers, nor have I given them any reason to in any business.
I don't see why these can't be friendly competitions between competitors. The manufacturers aren't arguing with each other. Why people have so much hatred, I don't understand. Yes there are a lot of stories out there. There are also two sides to a story. There are also disgruntled customers for whatever reason. Some are a little crazier than others, just saying I've seen it myself.
A few members here I see are hating with such blind passion, it's crazy. Almost crazy enough to me that it is possible that a few people might go above and beyond, and actually try to take the person down. I can name a few members right here that have sworn that oath, actually. (I see it with Dyna-Gro and other companies, too and so do you)
These people have never spoken to her, and have never ran her gear. Why the hatred?
I really don't get it. Yes I have read everything that anyone can post up here. There are also a lot of things they are not posting, like her side of the story. 10 years to be in business under the same name, that's not a scammer.
She obviously knows the law, and is good with contracts, as any smart business person would be, I would think. If you don't read the contract, you're kind of fucked in any business transaction. After someone feels like they got burnt, it quickly starts to turn into a scam.
What is the scam anyway? Has anyone asked? I am now. What's the scam?
Here is an example:
Someone sees a light on her site, wants to buy it and does. Gets it, thinks whatever of it, and wants to send it back within the 120 days. They are going to get 100% of their money back, correct? You'd better read that return policy, or you are going to be running around yelling scammer, because the answer is no but it was right there the whole time.
For RIU members, from the very beginning she said that she truly will make it a 100% risk free trial, and you won't pay a penny if you return the lights. Hell she's even sending shipping labels out for them to be sent back to her right now from someone. (Also, if you don't send the lights back that's stealing. It's over $500 or whatever, so it's not small claims court, it is theft. What happens when you are in possession of stolen products and the owner of those products knows where the products are? I don't have to connect too many dots, but the law gets involved at some point. A house visit will probably be made, at a minimum. Just saying.)
You could even say they are the best lights I've ever seen, but I want my money back....Done. Don't feel safe having it mailed to your house? Come on guys how do you get your seeds when you are feeling paranoid? Do that then.
My point....what was my point....sorry smoked about halfway through. Now that this is here though, I can come back to it.
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