hey guys, check out my journal :)

so you might have remembered me germinating my last 2 seeds.
they ended up spouting and i gave it to my mate to do an outdoor.
so that was a no go to me with my stealth indoor setup.

i have joined RIU for about 5 days now and everytime im on here, i gain more knowledge and there shouldent be a reason why i should give this a shot.

take a seat, injoy this ride with me.
this is my first ever grow and setup, i have heard everything gotten so much knowledge and this is what i have to offer.
i know yous might think 'wtf' @ my setup, but im giving this a shot and i cant wait.

this is my setup, i can not do more and this is all i have to play around with. hmm, whats his setup?

1 foot wide, 3 foot 10 inches long and 2 foot 8 inches high
im so use to reading foot and inches that i forgot what im use to (centermeters and meters)

so thats my setup.
yes i know, 'wtf'

gathering up info spending many hours on rollitup.org, i couldent stop myself to go out shopping and get the tools needed for the grow.

for your information, im no rich guy that has alot to spend on this setup, im just a 19 year old kid.

i went out to the hydrostore and got myself:

1xsmall rockwoll
1x of the next sized up rockwool
1xscoop of pellets, damn, im so blazed i forgot what there called, sorry
costed $3.50aus

went to the local hardware store and got myself:
2x24w cfl's (natural white)
costed like $20.70

so yas are all prolly wondering if its possible to even grow this thing with what i spend.
a good friend of mine, who has might i say, 'acceptable knowledge' with this area, has helped me and also gathered some items that i might need in the future, so might i say, im lucky, in a way.
he has provided:
a timer (so ive been told this timer can control all my lighting and fan)
black plastic sheeting
temp thermometer
trays for the pallet that fit perfectly in my box
ph tester
some sort of bud bloomer
some sort of root growth enhancer
that coughing syrup plunger? =S

what i need:
a small fan later for flowering
myla sheeting (sp)
prolly 1 more 18/20w clf
another lamp/batton holder w/ switch

thats what i can think of atm, ill keep yas posted, if yas want.
ill germinate 3 seeds tomorrow and start the setup tomorrow aswell

wish me luck everyone, thats if you want to
this is what i have to deal with, please, put yourself in my situation, or not. i wanna go through with this.
also, i wanna get feedback, and show its possible to do a stealth grow, even if you're dealing with a small amount of space.
oh ps: what i plan to do is veg under 18/6 for 3-4 weeks, then switch to 12/12 for another 3-4 weeks.

bye everyone

welcome. if you find 20 dollars on the ground, or end up inheriting someone;s fortune, then you should buy more lights

yeah, was planning to, waiting on more opinions [=

PS!!!: im buying new lights for flowering, not the natural white one, the one with a tinge, still thinking how many watts though ... 18? 20? 24?

you are going to get 3 opinions on lights and nobody will agree. either hid, flourescent/cfl or led's. imo, your best option in your situation is cfl's. you want to shoot for 75 total actual watts per square ft of growing area.

hahhhaa....its the rat.....i see you..

the 2x24w cfl is equivalent to 220watts, i've heard its more than enough, worse comes the worse, ill push another

man....if you want to spend 3 to 4 months(its time consuming) to grow a couple dubs of fluff....go ahead....you can play blind man and wallk wit the shepard but my eyes are wide open.....seriously......seedling stage(first three weeks) might work with two cfls....but once they have 4-5 nodes.....your gonna need more light....or else your plant will take 3x as long to grow(7 months)...and will probly be fluff.....

apprentice said:

the 2x24w cfl is equivalent to 220watts, i've heard its more than enough, worse comes the worse, ill push another

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i think you've misunderstood the guidelines for light. the cfl guidelines are always quoted in ACTUAL wattage, not equivalent. your lights will produce bud but you will count the output in grams not ounces.

hps bulb 400w= 22000-40000 lumens .... 2 24w cfl= 2500-3000 lumens.....sunlight= 100000 lumens.......my advice....priceless...

desert rat= bronze newb....lol.

you can flame me here but i just got you for posterity in your journal.

good start man just get some more bulbs. Have fun with this it's a hobbie not a job. Alot of growers here r distrubuters so they can spend a high amount of dought because there getting paid.

koolhand77 said:

good start man just get some more bulbs.Havefun with this it's a hobbie not a job. Alot of growers are here distrubuters oh so hen can soend a high amount ofdought because there getting paid.

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Even if your not selling....all you nead is 4 more lights....20-30 dollars.....and youll get twise as much.....trust me its a good investment.....and even with those it will still only give you probly an ounce....if your lucky....

1 cfl produces 5000K's x 2
thats 10.000K's for 1 plant
ps: been researching most of the night and look at other ppl's stealth grows with limited space.
its now 6:36am and im sober, been fkn round for 6+ hrs, bout to start the day and hopefully have the setup ready for tonite.
just pulled out one of my added on comp fans after reading the DIY's. i might say, i dident expect it to work .. golly gosh .. it did and im thinking about using 1 fan from the USB and using another with a phone charger. (my comp and grow box is 1m apart
i also might do some mylar shopping and today.
ill keep yas posted.

I was told 4500 lumens for each plant but, I have two 42 watt equivlant 150 watt cfl's and a smaller onef or a micro grow. I can't run anymore than that or my temp goes above 90.

we're almost in the same boat, bah, shoulda got that 42watt

i havent slept since the last time i posted, spent 4-5 hrs on the box and i dident think it would be that easy, just time consuming. things are looking great!

got my intake n outflow cut up also my plugs will let yas know when i finish my setup, will need mylar tonite though [=

post some pics bro.

so heres a few pics over 2 days, this is todays pics off an ok fone. i apologise if my shitty pixel'd fone is blinding you.
this is my bed/room/setup ofcourse, disguised. from an angle


this if the front view


this is it inside with the lights off, i will not put the seeds down for germination till i get some mylar. the plastic on the left is for my air out-take when i turn to flower.


this is the other side of the box. just showing you what im working with and seeing if its possible.



these pics were taken off a crappier fone yesterday while gettin the box light-tight.
this is 1 off my 24w cfl's with lights off.

i think you can find out whats what? if yas dnt know whats there, there is: my intake and out-take computer fans connected to a mobile phone battery charger, 1 of the lights, rockwool, clay pallets, root bloomer and a timer.

this my intake and plug



i think thats all guys. ill update when i place the seeds in the setup
feel free to ask questions or somethin, any extra help would be appreciated. fanks guys.

you going with soil? might want to think aout diy bubler real easy.