Artis Guogis
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hmmm :/ any advice how to purify soil?? or shall i change my nutrients?
Hey everyone,id like to hear your opinion!
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st0wandgrow
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Ph can absolutely be an issue with bottled organic nutrients. I had lockout when I was using the GO line..... granted I was growing in a peat-based medium.
undercovergrow
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well, i wasn't paying attention to PH much since i'm running organic in soil, and just kind of hoped it would be something simple like that. more than likely, you're right-it's my pot size that is ruining this run.
undercovergrow
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i'm in recycled soil that should just be getting better over time. that peat-based medium can mess up pH more though, right? appreciate your input!
OGEvilgenius
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I very strongly recommend reading through the RLOS thread in the organics section. You'll learn a lot about growing organically, but there's plenty of info regarding other stuff too.
OGEvilgenius
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Peat can fuck your ph pretty hard. But most mediums are quite forgiving.
st0wandgrow
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Peat is very acidic. You need to counter that with some liming agents like oyster shell flour, calcium carbonate, dolomite lime, etc.i'm in recycled soil that should just be getting better over time. that peat-based medium can mess up pH more though, right? appreciate your input!
Artis Guogis
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coco soil do not harm ph i guess,,n im usin nutrients for hydroponic growin - GHE-Flora grow, micro and blooming and i think they r not organic is that an issue ?
st0wandgrow
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I bought a bale of peat. Made my own base and amended that.... under shot the liming ingredients big time. What a mess
OGEvilgenius
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They are definitely part of your issue. What is your feed schedule and watering schedule like?
I highly recommend organic gardening as it's much easier and the results are really awesome. Not to mention once you really get established there's nothing cheaper. It's just sweat equity mostly.
The plant is basically going to take whatever it is that you give it. You're making the call, the plant has no say. Clearly the calls you are making aren't quite right. It's ok, part of the process and anyone growing with chemicals who says that they didn't screw it up many times is lying. I know I did - which is why I made the switch.
There is a learning process with organics, but it's so much easier. My buddy just smashed all his previous records with a 15 light operation. Previously using GH and some additives. Over 2lbs a light and he ran about 10 different strains and doesn't have time to do great canopy management and often leaves too many bottoms on. He hit 3 with the killer phenotype of killing fields I gave him. A patient actually brought a lb back because it was too strong smoke lol.
He screwed up his first crop ever rushing a not fully cooked mix and also overusing compost teas. Still hit 1.5 per light of some pretty good stuff with over 2 of the KF and Jack Herer he has.
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Artis Guogis
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one day im waterin with nutrients~2-3l per bucket,,,next day only with ph water,without any nutrients ~ 3-4l per bucket to purify soil...feed schedule is by nutrients manual
my previous results with these nutrients were great,,i made my personal record -got ~200g from one plant- northern lights x big bud auto ,,before thet i was usin organic nutrients and they did not worked out that smooth...and money is not a problem if were talkin about my green children
OGEvilgenius
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Truth be told, chemical nutrients are dirt cheap but they pollute etc. You can use your food waste (some) and many other things (cardboard essential! old plant material!) to make the best humus possible. This is the key to a great organic soil. Enough humus to hold all the nutrients necessary and also to support a healthy thriving culture of fungus and bacteria. And hold it strongly. I'm not an expert in organic chemistry and it's a little out of my depth but a simple rule of thumb is the blacker and stickier - the better so long as it's not a goup/mush.
This is the key to something great. Good worm castings and a compost that is diverse in green/brown material (look this up it's more than I wanna get into here) is the best source. A lot of bagged sources are rushed and often not that diverse. A great bagged source in western canada is Sea Soil. The best source is the stuff you make yourself. That's the sweat equity.
Then you amend it with appropriate nutrients and drainage.
1/3 large perlite
1/3 coco and peat
1/3 humus
Add amendments to it, there is a good number of good recipes in the RLOS thread stickied in the organics forum. This is often a more regional thing as sometimes somethings are more readily available. I'd avoid guanos though for a bunch of reasons.
Alfafla is really hot. It contains an interesting hormone called triacontonol (sp?) which speeds a plants metabolism. This works great in an organic mix properly composted in modest amounts. Too much can be bad though. Boost from Canna is essentially a concentrated version that's more useable in some ways. I don't recommend buying as it is expensive. It can help a plant recover from some kinds of problems though related to overfeeding in a pinch. Alfalfa has a decent amount of other nutrients in it so it is also worth being judicious with. Some amendments are really available to the plant and can burn still so you do need to do some reading and brush up on what potential pitfalls there can be.
Once you're going though, it's so easy. ANd you can reuse the soil over and over again with the odd amendment here and there.
It only improves.
This is the key to something great. Good worm castings and a compost that is diverse in green/brown material (look this up it's more than I wanna get into here) is the best source. A lot of bagged sources are rushed and often not that diverse. A great bagged source in western canada is Sea Soil. The best source is the stuff you make yourself. That's the sweat equity.
Then you amend it with appropriate nutrients and drainage.
1/3 large perlite
1/3 coco and peat
1/3 humus
Add amendments to it, there is a good number of good recipes in the RLOS thread stickied in the organics forum. This is often a more regional thing as sometimes somethings are more readily available. I'd avoid guanos though for a bunch of reasons.
Alfafla is really hot. It contains an interesting hormone called triacontonol (sp?) which speeds a plants metabolism. This works great in an organic mix properly composted in modest amounts. Too much can be bad though. Boost from Canna is essentially a concentrated version that's more useable in some ways. I don't recommend buying as it is expensive. It can help a plant recover from some kinds of problems though related to overfeeding in a pinch. Alfalfa has a decent amount of other nutrients in it so it is also worth being judicious with. Some amendments are really available to the plant and can burn still so you do need to do some reading and brush up on what potential pitfalls there can be.
Once you're going though, it's so easy. ANd you can reuse the soil over and over again with the odd amendment here and there.
It only improves.
Artis Guogis
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thanks a milion mate,this is really good to know
) i did not knew thet really ))) ill keep thet in mind and will do my best in future )) seems thet this forum is one of those rare places where are gathering only good and helpful people thank you and thenks to others who helped me
best wishes to all of u guys (y)