Hermie Pollen

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RevRico

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Is it worth keeping the pollen from a hermie plant? Would that count as a natural female pollen? I'm harvesting the pollen from my choice males, and I have an extra few jars, I thought it may be worth keeping.

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420progro

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if you indeed have a hermie, you can collect the pollen from that and use it on OTHER female plants to create feminized seeds. the seeds the hermie itself will create from pollinating ITSELF will be hermie seeds.
 
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RevRico

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+rep like promised, thanks. I wasn't sure whether the hermie would have fe seeds or hermie seeds, so now I'll just cut off it's balls and kill off the plants.
 
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homebrewer

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In general, you do NOT want pollen from hermied plants. Those are bad genetics and better genetics are very easy to find.
 
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fdd2blk

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420progro said:
if you indeed have a hermie, you can collect the pollen from that and use it on OTHER female plants to create feminized seeds. the seeds the hermie itself will create from pollinating ITSELF will be hermie seeds.
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where does this stuff come from? this is NOT true. :wall:
 
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socrates024

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if you indeed have a hermie, you can collect the pollen from that and use it on OTHER female plants to create feminized seeds. the seeds the hermie itself will create from pollinating ITSELF will be hermie seeds.

I am so fucking tired of the "hermie debate",I can not get any definitive information on the topic.All I get is contradicting opinions and ad-hominem attacks.Once and for all I will solve this problem,I had a hermie last harvest and took seeds from a self impregnated plant I germinated the seeds and have 20 healthy plant that have not shown sex yet.I will start a new thread with pics and end results to put this debate to an end.
 
That 5hit

That 5hit

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if you use the pollen form a hermi on an unrelated female the resulting seed can only grow to be hermi or female
if you pollenate a hermi with an unrelated male the resulting seed can only grow to be hermi, female or male
if you use the hermi pollen on it self or an unrelate hermi the resulting seed can only grow to be hermi
what i mean by unrelated is they are not clones of each other

but to answer you question
yes
it is worth keeping the hermi pollen to be use on unrelated females (for better stablity use pollen on a differant strain alltogether)
even in the worst case, you still end up with smokable bud- its 50/50 chance of hermi/female
 
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fdd2blk

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socrates024 said:
if you indeed have a hermie, you can collect the pollen from that and use it on OTHER female plants to create feminized seeds. the seeds the hermie itself will create from pollinating ITSELF will be hermie seeds.

I am so fucking tired of the "hermie debate",I can not get any definitive information on the topic.All I get is contradicting opinions and ad-hominem attacks.Once and for all I will solve this problem,I had a hermie last harvest and took seeds from a self impregnated plant I germinated the seeds and have 20 healthy plant that have not shown sex yet.I will start a new thread with pics and end results to put this debate to an end.
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come 6 weeks flowering all your questions should be answered. :wink:

good luck. bongsmilie
 
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RevRico

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Thanks for finally clearing this up for me. The hermies did self impregnate, but were killed off to more or less be an early sample after I took the pollen.
 
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daisydobey

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That 5hit said:
if you use the pollen form a hermi on an unrelated female the resulting seed can only grow to be hermi or female
if you pollenate a hermi with an unrelated male the resulting seed can only grow to be hermi, female or male
if you use the hermi pollen on it self or an unrelate hermi the resulting seed can only grow to be hermi
what i mean by unrelated is they are not clones of each other

but to answer you question
yes
it is worth keeping the hermi pollen to be use on unrelated females (for better stablity use pollen on a differant strain alltogether)
even in the worst case, you still end up with smokable bud- its 50/50 chance of hermi/female
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thanks for clearing that up! +1
 
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Odemodem

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I had a tangie mother that produced heavy yields of strong and fruity dank. But every 5th plant ended up as a hermie. In the last run she pollinated a strawberry sorbet and I pulled the fattest seed ive ever seen out of that strawberry sorbet bud. For the giggles i grew the seed, wondering what the result of tangiex strawberry is like. The plant was so strong in veg, grew so sick, smelled of tangie terps, it was a fucking unicorn. I thought yeaaaah my first strain, im baller. Come week 6 - and pollen sacks on my new strain. I hated my life. All of it happend today. Im devastated. My own strain. It looked so sick. Conclusion: never use hermie seeds, fuck hermies, DNA I want my money back, your tangie is worn out.
 
Frost Spectre

Frost Spectre

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Odemodem said:
I had a tangie mother that produced heavy yields of strong and fruity dank. But every 5th plant ended up as a hermie. In the last run she pollinated a strawberry sorbet and I pulled the fattest seed ive ever seen out of that strawberry sorbet bud. For the giggles i grew the seed, wondering what the result of tangiex strawberry is like. The plant was so strong in veg, grew so sick, smelled of tangie terps, it was a fucking unicorn. I thought yeaaaah my first strain, im baller. Come week 6 - and pollen sacks on my new strain. I hated my life. All of it happend today. Im devastated. My own strain. It looked so sick. Conclusion: never use hermie seeds, fuck hermies, DNA I want my money back, your tangie is worn out.
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That's unfortunately not how breeding works. What you have is a cross, not even an F1 line.

I've used hermie pollen on many occasions and have rarely seems problems doing so. Sometimes hermaphrodism happens due to light feeding, over feeding, light interruption in flower and climate issues. What you're doing is pollen chucking. I wouldn't blame DNA for your problems, I assure you they know what they are doing when it comes to breeding.
 
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PizzaMan5000

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I tried some "ice water flush" on one of ~8 small plants. If grew flowers and pollentated. I'm surprised it lived, interested that it pollenated.

Here six months later, I find two seeds in one plant.

I'm gonna germinate them, I can't hold ICE WATER against them. It's a clone that has never hermie'd otherwise.
If anything, it was interesting that ice water didn't cause wilt or droop, but made them grow little white flowers and chuck pollen.... They didn't even looks like nanners. They were white flower pedals.....
 
Frost Spectre

Frost Spectre

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PizzaMan5000 said:
I tried some "ice water flush" on one of ~8 small plants. If grew flowers and pollentated. I'm surprised it lived, interested that it pollenated.

Here six months later, I find two seeds in one plant.

I'm gonna germinate them, I can't hold ICE WATER against them. It's a clone that has never hermie'd otherwise.
If anything, it was interesting that ice water didn't cause wilt or droop, but made them grow little white flowers and chuck pollen.... They didn't even looks like nanners. They were white flower pedals.....
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We're you running ice water through the medium for stress testing?
Edit: oh, you were flushing with ice water.
 
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PizzaMan5000

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Frost Spectre said:
We're you running ice water through the medium for stress testing?
Edit: oh, you were flushing with ice water.
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Wanted to see if it influenced purple, or made trichomes "grow"... Neither. Just pollinated.
One nice thing about bonsai plants, like who cares if you try something for science on a plant well under 1sqft?

I saw it on youtube, and I was skeptical.... YEP, troll info. Or maybe he didn't know he was sitting on a goldmine!?!

Edit: was 3-4 days of ice water. Plant showed no stress otherwise, which was interesting.
 
Frost Spectre

Frost Spectre

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PizzaMan5000 said:
Wanted to see if it influenced purple, or made trichomes "grow"... Neither. Just pollinated.
One nice thing about bonsai plants, like who cares if you try something for science on a plant well under 1sqft?

I saw it on youtube, and I was skeptical.... YEP, troll info. Or maybe he didn't know he was sitting on a goldmine!?!
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I would go as far as trolling. He's just didn't understand what type of stress induced higher trichome density and higher terpene production.

Some breeders feed with colder water when doing stress testing on new varieties to see if they will induce hermaphroditic traits. Looks like you were able to figure that one out buy playing around in your garden.

P.s isn't experimenting fun?
 
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