hermaphrodite seeds question
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vostok
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Feminized seeds are hermy seeds from a female plant,
breeders force their females to herm, by spraying sts or colloidal silver on early female flowers
leading those flowers to turn to male nanners in about 10 days
EVERY SEED GERMED IS THEN CONSIDERED TO BE FEMALE
dodgy or inexperienced breeders, take short cuts, often with unstable strains
leading to all type of screwups later, but they don't care
they got your cash, the deal is the traits those seeds
have come from, are from their grandparents, the unstable strains
good luck
breeders force their females to herm, by spraying sts or colloidal silver on early female flowers
leading those flowers to turn to male nanners in about 10 days
EVERY SEED GERMED IS THEN CONSIDERED TO BE FEMALE
dodgy or inexperienced breeders, take short cuts, often with unstable strains
leading to all type of screwups later, but they don't care
they got your cash, the deal is the traits those seeds
have come from, are from their grandparents, the unstable strains
good luck
tangerinegreen555
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Feminized seeds (selfed seeds) are not necessarily hermies with the result of the original poster.
But they are always females that can produce unstable strains, not necessarily matching the pheno from the plant they were produced off, correct?
A selfed seed from a clone only strain isn't always going to match the parent...isn't it an old breeder technique to start 100 selfed seeds and pick 10 of the closest matches and work/breed with those? Searching for the traits they want to match, yes?
Dr. Who
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Bad example - they are not "bisexual" seeds V.
The term "hermie or hermaphrodite seeds is actually incorrect.
The plant is "selfed" and they do NOT form "nanners" but actual "BALLS"!
Genetically this is quite different then nanner throwing bisexuals.....BIG difference genetically speaking!!
S1 seeds are NO guarantee of all female seeds..Males DO happen!
Correct - not bisexual. The results of the OP are from environmental caused bisexuality. The seeds resulting from that are now changed by the environment effecting genetic trait expression.....While not "all" seeds will express bisexuality....The VAST majority will and even those that do not are not that stable......
Not "always" female. With good stable stock selfed or S1 seeds are genetic copies of the mother plant......It's gene expression that can change or genetically based recessed traits can become expressed when they were not before.....Bisexuality is one of them.
No! I don't use S1's as a base for any project, nor does anyone I know.....F1's or landrace only. Once you've breed out to F4-6 you loose vigor and trait expression so much that the resulting plants are weak in all ways.....Back crossing or cubing involves a bit of inbreeding to stabilize the plant so it has as much repeatability in traits expressed in growth that you were breeding for.......F1's have differing pheno's FAR, far more then S1's..
F1 pheno's can be limited by strong breeding stock and good breeding.
There is a strain that will have about 1 out of a hundred seeds be this odd little pheno that has a leaf "crinkle" to it in veg. This pheno of this strain is one of, if not the strongest smoke I have ever tried!
Doc
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tangerinegreen555
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What about clone only strains? Don't they use clone only S-1's to try to breed/cross? Is 'clone only' ever transformed to a dioecious seed cross using S-1's along the way with stability in the end?
Dr. Who
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Yes, but someone somewhere has a straight.......most likely.....but yes. I mean you are going to introduce a Male of some , at least "projected" line relation to the mother if your going to attempt it.
Look at Chemdog....CaliCon has the 91 real deal. Dr. Greenthumb has the breeder Chemdogs real deal Chemdog#4 cut. I'll bet that very few other versions of it are actually Chemdog - most are simply re-creations of suspected lineage. I've seen and tasted versions that were in no way the real deal........Green House's version is not real, it's a recreation....
GSC is is another perfect example of "recreated" strains......The one and only TRUE girl scout cookies has never been released to the public. So where then did all these GSC strains for sale by breeders come from? Recreating from suspected parent lineage....The chances of actually recreating a strain to copy the real deal original - astronomical! Close I can see but, exact in all aspects NOT.
Doc
tangerinegreen555
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Ten four. Thanks Doc!
Apparently someone has genetically tested Ghost OG and Tahoe OG and maintains that the Tahoe is really just a poorly reproduced Ghost OG and I'd bet if that's true the Chemdawg 91 is really a re-worked Chemdawg #4
Dr. Who
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Vary interesting observation!
But as I understand it....The #4 is a version of 91 by Chem using the 91. So not a recreation but an advancement.
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Madagascar
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Im doing that experiment right now, im about a month from harvest. I used seeds from bagseed just to perfect my horticultural skills I sexed plant to female. Made 4 clones placed in DWC and SCROGd now all the way thru I havent noticed any seeds or seed pods. What i have noticed is some bananas growing out that ive just picked out, nothing crazy just a few. So people say not to worry with the bananas this late into flowering, as long as u dont find any hard seeds.
Capt. Stickyfingers
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This is bullshit.
This is bullshit. Who is sfv?
More bullshit.
Another 89 chem claim, which is of course bullshit.
Sure you do.
Why did you get rid of those pics of that shitty looking fake skywalker og you grew? Why did you get rid of your 1 and only grow journal? Because it sucked and doesn't fit your copy/paste marijuana expert persona? Get on icmag in the 91 chem thread where skunkva and nspecta both post among others that have been around, and talk that shit there. Tell them about your 89 chem and see what they say.
