Hermaphrodite - A term being heard far too often!

GreenphoeniX

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mmmk this a well needed post. but i figured id add something. feminized seeds are created by a hermie plant.
Actually most professional feminized seeds are NOT strictly created using hermies, they are actually, in fact, created by getting two female plants and chemically hormone treating one to produce male flowers (hermie in a sense, but not genetically), these male flowers (of female genetics) are used to pollinate the other female to produce seeds.

These seeds contain the genetics of two female parents and therefore are 99% likely to be female, with the exception of genetic mutation, and because these plants are chemically hormone treated, they do not hold any genetic hermaphrodite traits.

Cheers!
 

Down With The Clown

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i heard that word yesterday....we were talking about jamie presley
Im pretty sure you were talking about Jamie- Lee Curtis NOT Jamie Presley :!:

Anyway, can hermies still produce decent buds? I seriously think I have 1 because it has pistils and balls.

I was actually about to chop them because I thought it was ALL male then I found some small pistils.
 

BlackHit

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Glad somebody bumped this thread, I was about to start one about this same topic a couple days ago but it slipped my mind. Anyway, it seems to me that a lot of people think if you breath the wrong way on a plant it will cause it to go hermie and from some of the advice people give around here, can you really blame them for thinking that? The fact of the matter is plants and specifically cannabis can take A LOT of abuse/stress before they start showing really negative effects such as hermitization. Like the OP said, a plant that goes hermie most likely did so because it was already genetically predisposed to go that way OR there was a major leak in the dark period FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME. Aside from those two factors you have to really manhandle your plant(s) to affect the kinds of stress needed to change its sex from female to male. First and foremost a plant's natural environment is outdoors in nature not in peoples houses growing under HID lights. Think about the kinds of fluctuations that occur in our environment, from droughts to floods, high humidity, low humidity, bugs, animals, all kinds of things that can potentially interact with them in a negative way and yet they continue to thrive and grow just like every other thing that is outside with no problems. Because you pruned too many leaves off or overwatered your girls once or twice is just a drop in the bucket to the amount of stress these plants can take in their lifetimes, so I think people, especially new growers should not worry so much about turing their girls into hermies. The bottom line is plants are like little supermen/women that can take a whole lot before you really hurt them badly.
 

getitdone

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1st grow newbie here saying thanks for the information!
I’m using bagseeds for first few grows to get my feel for things so this really helped, before I read this post I was about to pull this one out and trash it even thought it just showing one sack right at 3 weeks or so into flower.

Thanks
 

belial79

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I grow up to 12 at a time every few months for 2 years now, i thought i was doing everything right except growing or cloning bad genetics.
All i seem to get is more hermies, still smokeable . Would you recommend getting seeds from elsewhere?
 
Glad somebody bumped this thread, I was about to start one about this same topic a couple days ago but it slipped my mind. Anyway, it seems to me that a lot of people think if you breath the wrong way on a plant it will cause it to go hermie and from some of the advice people give around here, can you really blame them for thinking that? The fact of the matter is plants and specifically cannabis can take A LOT of abuse/stress before they start showing really negative effects such as hermitization. Like the OP said, a plant that goes hermie most likely did so because it was already genetically predisposed to go that way OR there was a major leak in the dark period FOR AN EXTENDED AMOUNT OF TIME. Aside from those two factors you have to really manhandle your plant(s) to affect the kinds of stress needed to change its sex from female to male. First and foremost a plant's natural environment is outdoors in nature not in peoples houses growing under HID lights. Think about the kinds of fluctuations that occur in our environment, from droughts to floods, high humidity, low humidity, bugs, animals, all kinds of things that can potentially interact with them in a negative way and yet they continue to thrive and grow just like every other thing that is outside with no problems. Because you pruned too many leaves off or overwatered your girls once or twice is just a drop in the bucket to the amount of stress these plants can take in their lifetimes, so I think people, especially new growers should not worry so much about turing their girls into hermies. The bottom line is plants are like little supermen/women that can take a whole lot before you really hurt them badly.
First let me say THANKS TO Greenphoenix for starting this informative thread. And thanks to all of the experienced people posting. EXPERIENCED GROWERS ONLY PLEASE!!!

Now my questions:

So how much light is too much and what is an extended period of time?

I'm a newb. Just harvested 40 cotton candy plants grown from a mother given to me by someone else. Over half the plants turned hermie and everything ended up with the seed "pods" but no seeds (other than a couple VERY VERY immature little dots). I let it flower to the 45 day point (when I was told they would finish). Everything smokes "OK" and is fairly potent but it is lacking in taste due to the "pods".

I'm still trying to figure out what went wrong. Setting up a new grow room and want to make sure I don't have hermies again. The only thing I can think of that happened last time was that one night I accidentally left the tarp unzipped that separates the moms from the flower room. This allowed a significant amount of t5 flouro light into the flower room during the dark period. That only happened one night (for all 12 hours). Would that me enough to cause it?

Do I need to tape up all lighted switches on my power strips? (They generate some light)

What about light seeping in from the cracks of doors that are closed? I put a door sweep at the bottom but a little light comes in from the top & sides...

AND I need to work in the room during the dark period. I've heard you can use a green light bulb. Is this true? Any special kind of bulb or just a party bulb from Wal-mart that is green in color?

THANKS AGAIN FOR THE HELP GUYS!!!
 

420Marine

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I was wondering if you all could help me...not sure if I have a hermi...I've had some light leak (about as much as moonlight) they've been 12/12 for two weeks and one day. This first pic is of what I think is male parts..the second is what I think is female parts..pretty obvious since I've seen hairs on them..but no buds and no smell yet...any thoughts?

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GreenphoeniX

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Your first photo is neither a male nor a female flower, it is something called a sepal or calyx which occurs on both male and female plants. Although it's difficult to see from the second pic, that does look like a female. Either your plants are receiving too much light (due to light leaks) in their dark period to flower properly, or they just haven't kicked off properly yet. 2 weeks is pretty early into flowering and some strains don't show much sign of flowering until they are nearing the end of their 3rd week. Usually it takes less time than that, occasionally more. You should start seeing a bit more action soon!
 

420Marine

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Hey just wanted to let others know that you solved my problem and I"m happy to report as well first real bud sites showing today...looks like all my girls are girls LOL..thanks again GreenPhoeniX
 
Great thread! a lil old now but i still wanted to add:

i've been growing a jamaican x thai cross under a SCROG.
Because it's under a scrog i had to remove lots of leaves, and did so during the beginning of flowering..
It has hermed now. Probably because the Thai genes are infamous for turning herm with the slightest stress.

Peace!
 

Dr. Who

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Man, you guys gotta quit this digging up the dead thread shit! 8 year old thread dude!

You opened this back up to make a general comment on a "never ending" topic?

Shit, this thread has truth AND BULL SHIT in it! The fun part is some poor soles will believe the BS part!


Let the "dead" lie! Start a new thread !!!!
 
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