Herm !???

Kingrow1 said:

So pro whats he gona do if next week another hermed plant and the week after another - say he starts with five plants and four herm during the course of flower, you would rather he kills 80% of final yeild?

So ya looking at the bigger picture i guess yer i am pro since been here long enough to know better.

Maybe we should really go at it over drying and curing or a really decent sibject so others can eadily tell who knows stuff and whos making it up hmmmm..

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Bro I explained why the plants may have been herm I have grown before so I’m not a “noob” just because I don’t post on a website. These were OLD seeds and I was careless with the transplant which in turn probably turned these two plants into herm. And they’re gone now as I have 4 plants from NEW seeds that are thriving. And I did not want any contamination.

No pollen = no seeds. If you have seeds it's coming from somewhere, and there are pollen sacs in the first and last pics of the first set you uploaded, so I hope you got the only herms out.
Good luck, just be aware that there may be a bit of pollen hanging out in your grow room now.

Ya long time grower....

Question: If it was just a little stress and that went away wouldnt they just revert back to.normal females?

You could kill them or not and for me pollen dosent fly round my tent it simply droos which causes very little harm, sometimes im expecting a load of seed but i get one or two and realize that its hard to pollinate without loads of wind and shaking pollen everywhere.

Your choice is your choice but this is a site of knowledge and we dont all hate herms and didnt see your name printed on every plant like i had to.only do your way....

smokelax5 said:

Bro I explained why the plants may have been herm I have grown before so I’m not a “noob” just because I don’t post on a website. These were OLD seeds and I was careless with the transplant which in turn probably turned these two plants into herm. And they’re gone now as I have 4 plants from NEW seeds that are thriving. And I did not want any contamination.

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CanadianJim said:

No pollen = no seeds. If you have seeds it's coming from somewhere, and there are pollen sacs in the first and last pics of the first set you uploaded, so I hope you got the only herms out.
Good luck, just be aware that there may be a bit of pollen hanging out in your grow room now.

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And I read somewhere that stress can also cause a plant to herm because they’re trying to procreate with themselves when they die but hopefully I caught them soon enough that they’re was no pollen drop I really hope not but I killed them last night and I’m saying it couldn’t have been pollen that caused them to herm because I grew the female I posted above in the same tent right next to it

I accidentally hermied the shit out of half my crop last year. I realized that my lights were turning on for 1 hour every night during the dark cycle for 2 weeks since I flipped them. Total rookie mistake, but I kept 1 hermie & moved it to another tent to pollenate a female & ended up with a nice batch of feminized seeds. It’s not the best method for creating feminized seeds, but I made the best of the situation. Seeds are freakin expensive to buy, so I only buy them now to make a shit ton more of my favorite strains using colloidal silver.

CanadianJim said:

No pollen = no seeds. If you have seeds it's coming from somewhere, and there are pollen sacs in the first and last pics of the first set you uploaded, so I hope you got the only herms out.
Good luck, just be aware that there may be a bit of pollen hanging out in your grow room now.

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smokelax5 said:

And I read somewhere that stress can also cause a plant to herm because they’re trying to procreate with themselves when they die but hopefully I caught them soon enough that they’re was no pollen drop I really hope not but I killed them last night and I’m saying it couldn’t have been pollen that caused them to herm because I grew the female I posted above in the same tent right next to it

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Pollen does not cause herms, herms drop pollen.
Herms caused by age is a process called rhodelization. Your plants would have to be past the end of the flowering cycle for that to be an issue, so I think you can discount that.
If you had seeds on any of your plants, there was pollen.
You had herms, so there was your pollen source.

Kingrow1 said:

Ya long time grower....

Question: If it was just a little stress and that went away wouldnt they just revert back to.normal females?

You could kill them or not and for me pollen dosent fly round my tent it simply droos which causes very little harm, sometimes im expecting a load of seed but i get one or two and realize that its hard to pollinate without loads of wind and shaking pollen everywhere.

Your choice is your choice but this is a site of knowledge and we dont all hate herms and didnt see your name printed on every plant like i had to.only do your way....

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I had a couple of plants in a room with very little airflow, one was male, 6 feet away from the others and as I was getting rid of him I noticed that a flower had opened with pollen on the leaf under it. Distance + lack of airflow, I thought there was very little chance of pollination. Still had 3 or 4 seeds in the closest female. Pretty sure it can come down to luck.
As to your question, I don't know, I've only had one stress hermie, and she put out all of 5 nanners, gave herself a few seeds, and finished the grow as a regular female. But I maintained the stress I was using as I was hoping to get a few more seeds

Many of us have had herms or males and found pollen is easily managable, experience in not making wind tunnels, blowing fans at plants and removing offending sacs and nanas.

The rest are not telling the whole story and seek only for new growers to kill anything at first sign.

We actually had to point out that not every weird preflower or ball shaped growth is male or herm on the what sex is it threads as peeps were killing 100% females daily with this idiotic advice.

The worst part is that if you start growing and follow this advice then spew it back out it shows you never kept at it to get to my and others experience level - whats easier killing herms or keeping them and getting to a higher level.

As well as this this i write heavily on herm genetics because i can and most of whats said is freaking lame like breeding of how seed made etc etc.

I understand if peeps want to hate herms and cut them from grows but that is a personal choice and there is a great wealth of info that isnt kill everything

CanadianJim said:

Pollen does not cause herms, herms drop pollen.
Herms caused by age is a process called rhodelization. Your plants would have to be past the end of the flowering cycle for that to be an issue, so I think you can discount that.
If you had seeds on any of your plants, there was pollen.
You had herms, so there was your pollen source.

I had a couple of plants in a room with very little airflow, one was male, 6 feet away from the others and as I was getting rid of him I noticed that a flower had opened with pollen on the leaf under it. Distance + lack of airflow, I thought there was very little chance of pollination. Still had 3 or 4 seeds in the closest female. Pretty sure it can come down to luck.
As to your question, I don't know, I've only had one stress hermie, and she put out all of 5 nanners, gave herself a few seeds, and finished the grow as a regular female. But I maintained the stress I was using as I was hoping to get a few more seeds

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Stress reactions are always transient - anthocyanin comes and goes, whorlled phylotaxy comes and goes and we all see that herms come and go. Maybe you get one early set of pollen sacs a.d none more or maybe you get them near the end or maybe all the time.

We can extract observatio.s and make assumptions based on what we see - i asked the guy the question of wether it will stop herming or not because he wasnt going to be able to answer and thus his singular approach to herms lost validity

CanadianJim said:

Pollen does not cause herms, herms drop pollen.
Herms caused by age is a process called rhodelization. Your plants would have to be past the end of the flowering cycle for that to be an issue, so I think you can discount that.
If you had seeds on any of your plants, there was pollen.
You had herms, so there was your pollen source.

I had a couple of plants in a room with very little airflow, one was male, 6 feet away from the others and as I was getting rid of him I noticed that a flower had opened with pollen on the leaf under it. Distance + lack of airflow, I thought there was very little chance of pollination. Still had 3 or 4 seeds in the closest female. Pretty sure it can come down to luck.
As to your question, I don't know, I've only had one stress hermie, and she put out all of 5 nanners, gave herself a few seeds, and finished the grow as a regular female. But I maintained the stress I was using as I was hoping to get a few more seeds

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And as a last little insert -

This is what leds, boveda, herbsnow, super strength strains, rec med legal etc etc etc have done to the site and industry, made it full.of stupid people. Ya of course they gona struggle and argue against those who spent years learning wtf a herm is or the wind speed for pollen take off and such wonderfully interesting immersive and very scientific subjects

Kingrow1 said:

Stress reactions are always transient - anthocyanin comes and goes, whorlled phylotaxy comes and goes and we all see that herms come and go. Maybe you get one early set of pollen sacs a.d none more or maybe you get them near the end or maybe all the time.

We can extract observatio.s and make assumptions based on what we see - i asked the guy the question of wether it will stop herming or not because he wasnt going to be able to answer and thus his singular approach to herms lost validity

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Since this is still, barely, on the subject the op posted about, I have always said that if I had hermie plants (that I hadn't deliberately caused) then I would pluck off the anthers (nanners) or male flowers as they appeared or as I noticed them. If I have a separate space as I do now, I separate them so that I don't get seeds in my crop.

Really intrestingly i got loads of herms when i started but now if i fuck up barely any. I and others have assumed some stresses cause it more than others but no ones ever got futher than this to my knowledge.

Small tent growers just learn to manage herms and pollen or they have reduced yeilds - no advice there to kill or seperate and we see a bigger picture emerging.

Ive always tried to seed as much as possible, free seed rocks, its jyst a shame i rarely get a nana or sac thesedays

CanadianJim said:

Since this is still, barely, on the subject the op posted about, I have always said that if I had hermie plants (that I hadn't deliberately caused) then I would pluck off the anthers (nanners) or male flowers as they appeared or as I noticed them. If I have a separate space as I do now, I separate them so that I don't get seeds in my crop.

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