Who said it was a tragedy any time anyone dies? You want to put words in my mouth too, asshole? Everyone dies, but everyone is not murdered. The fact that you're falling back on the premise that "Everyone dies, so gun deaths are ok" is probably one of the stupidest, and poorly constructed arguments I've ever heard. Comparing murder and dying from natural causes, is completely pointless, and you should know that if you have a shred of intelligence.
you declared all those deaths i listed, even getting struck by a meteorite as "tragedies". i propose being struck by a meteorite would fall under the heading of Comedy. but thats theoretical since to date NOBODY has ever been killed by a meteorite strike.
It's not a strawman, it's the actual issue! There are 3rd world nations with more guns per capita than the USA, and those places have atrocious standards of living. You want to plummet the USA into the ranks of Iraq or Columbia? Is that what you're suggesting by your comment?
hmm switzerland has more guns per capita than the US... how many swiss people get murdered by "guns"? ohh wait thats right, if you murder somebody in switzerland, regardless of the implement used YOU get charged, not the weapon. amazing. perhaps we should have offending guns stoned to death in the village square? maybe we could use the malleus maleficarum's tools and techniques to determine which guns are possessed by evil spirits and satan? we could throw all our guns into a smelter, and the ones that dont melt are the possessed MURDERGUNS! brilliant!
Congratulations the USA is slightly safer than Swaiziland - the AIDS capitol of the world. Roll out the red carpet!
so guns are a viral pathogen? also if you read the WHO whitepapers on "Aids in Africa" you woulod know that "AIDS" is the catch-all diagnosis used by village witch doctors when somebody dies from anything other than the easilly recognized causes.
african death certificates pretty much have options, and the witch doctor checks one (or sometimes both)
Cause of Death:
[ ] Eaten By A Lion
[ ] Aids
X_____________________________ (witchdoctor's signature or mark)
I'm not interested in protecting fools from themselves, I'm interested in protecting myself from idiot gun owners that have no business owning a gun they have no idea how to use. I don't trust you idiots with safety scissors, let alone a CCW .500SW you want to use in a public place.
and you have set yourself up as the arbiter of who does or does not deserve to own weaponry, and what kinds those privileged few may own, as well as how they must keep them, for YOUR safety.
Nope, my guns are stored in a safe, with trigger locks. Combination locks on both. I'm responsible with my firearms, and I don't need a gun to make me feel like I have a set of balls.
my guns too are stored in a manner which is safe (never accidentally shot nobody)
legal (no controlling legal authority)
and responsible (i NEVER let them roam the streets unaccompanied)
, so there. Neener neener neener.
USA car deaths are similar to other developed nations, per capita.
the death of any car is a tragedy, especially if it's a classic.
USA gun deaths are not even remotely similar to other developed nations, per capita.
and in england more people die from getting stabbed per capita than they do in america you may note i did not blame the knife for the criminal's actions. see objects have never murdered anyone in the entirety of history. not even once.
Here in lies the problem, why does the USA have so many gun murders per year compared to every other developed nation? Someone please answer this question! I don't give a shit if the USA has less deaths than some African and South American countries.
because america has so many murders every year, and guns are just one of the better ways to murder. we also have more heavy sack beatings, more stabbings, more bludgeonings (with a rigid object rather than a flexible one, there is a difference) more arrow shootings, more deliberate automotive homicides (as opposed to accidents) more suicides, more bear maulings, more mountain lion eatings, more rattlesnake bites, more pit bull maulings, and more shitty interweb opinions than any other country in the world.
every death with a gun nearby is not a murder, every death where a gun was the weapon used is not a murder, and every person who owns a gun is not a murderer waiting for his turn to MDK some helpless stranger for the thrill.
There is a reasonable expectation to life,
no there is not.
if you are breaking the law in a way that undermines someone else's life, you might be arrested or killed. If I'm walking down the street and catch a bullet from a citizen shooting at someone who stole their wallet, I'd say that's not exactly fair, wouldn't you? Is your wallet worth my life?
the odds of a random stranger catching a bullet from a self defense use of a firearm is so rare as to be unheard of. it has never happened. COPS have sent stray bullets into nearby passing kids, and they are indemnified against personal lawsuits, we have accountability. nobody ever promised you life would be fair, or just or equitable. if they did, you may have a cause for legal action against THAT GUY, but not every gun owner who you fear MIGHT injure you with their gun.
If you heathens (not you bear) would actually listen to what people are saying instead of assuming everyone wants your "precious guns" maybe some progress would get made instead of the continual "stick head up ass, and ignore everything", argument I've been hearing.
what you are saying is not so new and exciting, we have all heard these impassioned emotional pleas before, demanding "reasonable steps" be taken to ensure everybody's saftey against even the least likely eventuality. i for one am tired of it. if you dont want anyone to have guns, use
"Virtuous Persuasion" and surrender yours first.
perhaps you're the leader we have been waiting for, to guide us to the promised land where nobody ever gets angry, and even if they did, everybody wears 16oz sparring mitts 24/7. for safety.
