Hempstar 3 Stage LED Grow

dunit

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they plumping up well. how long left you think before the much awaited harvest?? lights seem great just a shame the company aint great at replying to e mails. bin weeks now. does make you think.
That's bizzare! Gotta say I've never waited more than a day and that includes weekends. You emailing them from their site? Only thing I can think is that for some reason your addy got picked out by a spam filter.
 

dunit

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they plumping up well. how long left you think before the much awaited harvest??
This is an eight week strain and kicked over Jan 3rd and I didn't do 24 hours of darkenss so it would take them a couple days for the hormones to change to trigger flower so very end of feb or first few days of march.
 

Devilspawn

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Looking great. Seriously considering building out a sep flower room soon, this cab is nice for small grows, but my 5 big girls are spreading out pretty good under LST leaving little space for my clone and the other two in there. Looks like all females on my carms if I'm reading the preflowers right- Who knows with the runt freebie- growing fast under blackstar though. The Widows are catching up- tons of side growth with LST and the one I topped early on If I do, may put a 357 mag in there. Waiting to see how big ur buds get- looks great so far.
 

mad dog bark

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how do all. i will rewrite to them. yeh i was on the web site. mayb had probs with sending. dunit are them flood tables diy jobs or did you buy them?wot r there sizes? they seem quite expensive to buy.
 

dunit

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how do all. i will rewrite to them. yeh i was on the web site. mayb had probs with sending. dunit are them flood tables diy jobs or did you buy them?wot r there sizes? they seem quite expensive to buy.
They are flood tables and I only used them because I had them from my flood and drain days. I think home depot sells concrete mixing trays that are way cheaper and more or less the same thing. I have two 4x2 tables.
 

mad dog bark

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nice.looks like your getting some dark hairs forming on them ladys. doesnt look like the lights r struggling with bottom leaves etc, cant even see any yellowing, all seems very very healthy.them crystals or thc showing now to. great work. hope you get the results u want from this grow fella. you say they 3 gal pots or 5?
 

Canon

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Very nice grow & informative.
Been wanting to go LED for several reasons for awhile. Keep getting confused on the info / lies of sellers & mfgs. guess that puts me in the same boat as others, "I want to see non-biased grows."
One thing that holds me back is it seems most (not all) that grow LED use suplimental lighting. To me that means LED just are not there yet, and I move on for a few months.
I'll be watching this because it is looking absolutely great for a shake down grow w/ new lighting.
Geat job all around.
Thanks for take the time....
 

Devilspawn

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If you have the right LEds and grow strategy, they seem to work just fine. Don't want to debate whose is biggest among the light mfg guys, not my fight, but it is clear to me and others that the higher wattage chipset you have, i.e. 3w like Dunit, lebudguy, myself...vs the 1 w and less lights, the better your success. For veg, my combo is amazing in terms of rate. I did run supplemental CFL initailly for increased cab temp, not growth lighting. With my new 3w light running with the two 1 w ufos, have plenty of heat now and a ton of light. As you can see with Dunit et al, you can get great budding with LED if you use the right lights. If there enough misinformation out there to scare a person interested in trying LED- hell yes. Is there misunderstanding of wattage claims, PAR, angle etc- hell yes. I jumped in with a prefab cab with 1W ufos before doing my research on LED vs HID/HPS because I wanted low heat and stealth. Also bought into vendors data on veg efficiency, etc based on tomatoe grows before I found this site. Didn't consider flower or height. Enough info here to say higher wattage, quality lights are your best bet for bud output. The cheapo Chinese panels running low wat chips maybe be good for initial veg or SOG grows, but they are not going to do it with bushy monsters like mine are turning into....
 

dunit

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If you have the right LEds and grow strategy, they seem to work just fine. Don't want to debate whose is biggest among the light mfg guys, not my fight, but it is clear to me and others that the higher wattage chipset you have, i.e. 3w like Dunit, lebudguy, myself...vs the 1 w and less lights, the better your success. For veg, my combo is amazing in terms of rate. I did run supplemental CFL initailly for increased cab temp, not growth lighting. With my new 3w light running with the two 1 w ufos, have plenty of heat now and a ton of light. As you can see with Dunit et al, you can get great budding with LED if you use the right lights. If there enough misinformation out there to scare a person interested in trying LED- hell yes. Is there misunderstanding of wattage claims, PAR, angle etc- hell yes. I jumped in with a prefab cab with 1W ufos before doing my research on LED vs HID/HPS because I wanted low heat and stealth. Also bought into vendors data on veg efficiency, etc based on tomatoe grows before I found this site. Didn't consider flower or height. Enough info here to say higher wattage, quality lights are your best bet for bud output. The cheapo Chinese panels running low wat chips maybe be good for initial veg or SOG grows, but they are not going to do it with bushy monsters like mine are turning into....
Thanks for the input. Pretty much sums up my experience trying to find a decent light. In the end I took a bit of a gamble because this was a new product but I felt that company had a good history and it's working out pretty good so far. It is unfortunate that there are so many shills, trolls and company reps on these public sites and the first time you point out why one panel is better than another with objective facts, people jump all over you and the information gets lost.

I'm just gonna keep growing and lets the results speak for themselves.
 

dunit

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Why did you give up the flood and drain? Also, which strain are your growing?
We call this strain Hempstar and it has been around these parts for about a decade. Apparently it is more commonly known as Brainstorm now.

I went away from flood and drain just because of res and temp issues. I like to run a fairly hot grow room, 85F but root zone temps are best about 70F. A dirt like medium is just not as sensitive to temp. When I ran HID I had to have A/C in the room and I could just have that blowing on the res and underside of the table but with LED I don't need an A/C so everything is the same temp.
 
Great thread. Very nice set up. Can't wait to see the final results. I started small w/a 2'x2' tent a 180w blackstar but am planning on turning that into just the veg room and get something bigger/better for a flower room later. These Magnums are looking like they may fit the bill. +rep for showing how well they work.
 

medicine21

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I went away from flood and drain just because of res and temp issues. I like to run a fairly hot grow room, 85F but root zone temps are best about 70F. A dirt like medium is just not as sensitive to temp. When I ran HID I had to have A/C in the room and I could just have that blowing on the res and underside of the table but with LED I don't need an A/C so everything is the same temp.
How much HID power did you have in your 4x4" and how how much did it yield? I guess in other words I am asking whether you can compare results in same space with HID lights you ran before?
 

Canon

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Grow room, 2' X 2 1/2' X 7 ft closet.
Flat white walls
Grows 2 X 2 X 3 ft tall plants from top of soil pot.
Presently using a 250 MH/HPS and pleased with the results so far. Heat & fans are a pain though.

Not too sure about the 90 watt blackstar.

Thinking the
180 w Blackstar / Lighthouse, 6 band, 2 w, may be too much.

See a Dr. Growrite that only has 3 bands, but 3 watt LEDS at 150 watts.

Am I looking / thinking right here?
Seems the Lighthouse may be the better choice and just raise it if it's too much?
I'd prefer a couple of 50's but see none with anything other than 1 w LEDs. :roll:
If this is all wrong maybe you'd make a suggestion?
Thank you.
 

Devilspawn

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Grow room, 2' X 2 1/2' X 7 ft closet.
Flat white walls
Grows 2 X 2 X 3 ft tall plants from top of soil pot.
Presently using a 250 MH/HPS and pleased with the results so far. Heat & fans are a pain though.

Not too sure about the 90 watt blackstar.

Thinking the
180 w Blackstar / Lighthouse, 6 band, 2 w, may be too much.

See a Dr. Growrite that only has 3 bands, but 3 watt LEDS at 150 watts.

Am I looking / thinking right here?
Seems the Lighthouse may be the better choice and just raise it if it's too much?
I'd prefer a couple of 50's but see none with anything other than 1 w LEDs. :roll:
If this is all wrong maybe you'd make a suggestion?
Thank you.

Check the coverage area- based on wattage and angle- the 240 blackstar is only good for 4-6 sq ft....uses 60 deg chips at 3 w.
 
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