HELPPP PLEASE PLANTS NEED HELP

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I planted them straight into there forever home after germination cause there autoflowers that’s what everyone said now that I do it it’s wrong ? Idk this stuff is confusing I’ll lower my ph to 6.5 then I should be alright ? I’m skeptical about the “bugs” I don’t see nothing it’s not white dots it looks like rust.
While people suggest to start autos in their "forever home" that doesn't mean they need to be planted directly into their "forever soil". You can still fill your pot with FFOF but, before you plant your seed push a solo cup into the soil until the top is level with the top of the soil, pull it out, and fill that hole with something more suitable for seedlings (ProMix HP or a seed starter soil), and then plant your seed. The rust spots are usually a Ca or Mg issue, but when your pH is off the plant cannot pull in those minerals, so make sure your pH is in line before you start throwing cal mag at it.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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So since the nutrients aren’t available because of the high ph it’s not “over feeding”? Is that what you’re saying?

I honestly don’t know but that’s what I assume it is. Most organic growers that I’ve seen don’t ph. It’s one nice thing about organic.
Correct. The plants can only absorb specific nutrients when the pH is in range. See below.
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Wattzzup

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While people suggest to start autos in their "forever home" that doesn't mean they need to be planted directly into their "forever soil". You can still fill your pot with FFOF but, before you plant your seed push a solo cup into the soil until the top is level with the top of the soil, pull it out, and fill that hole with something more suitable for seedlings (ProMix HP or a seed starter soil), and then plant your seed. The rust spots are usually a Ca or Mg issue, but when your pH is off the plant cannot pull in those minerals, so make sure your pH is in line before you start throwing cal mag at it.
This is great advice for next time OP on the soil
 

Wattzzup

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Correct. The plants can only absorb specific nutrients when the pH is in range. See below.
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So if my tap is 9 it’s not getting nutrients? That makes sense. How come I can go 25 days with just 9 ph water and it doesn’t show def? That’s what I’m confused on.

do I need to ph my water for organic. That’s the testing I’m doing now. I added dry amendments to one and still haven’t touched the ph of my tap.

most of my research shows adding ph down will kill all the microbes in my soil. Since the amendment has microbes I haven’t touched my water.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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So if my tap is 9 it’s not getting nutrients? That makes sense. How come I can go 25 days with just 9 ph water and it doesn’t show def? That’s what I’m confused on.

do I need to ph my water for organic. That’s the testing I’m doing now. I added dry amendments to one and still haven’t touched the ph of my tap.

most of my research shows adding ph down will kill all the microbes in my soil. Since the amendment has microbes I haven’t touched my water.
My guess is that something in your soil is buffering the pH of your tap down. A pH of 8 or 9 is extremely high. The pH scale is logarithmic so, for every whole number you go up in pH, your solution is 10X more basic. Every whole number you go down is 10X more acidic.
 

Wattzzup

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My guess is that something in your soil is buffering the pH of your tap down. A pH of 8 or 9 is extremely high. The pH scale is logarithmic so, for every whole number you go up in pH, your solution is 10X more basic. Every whole number you go down is 10X more acidic.
I just thought that’s how organic soil works. Most of the guys I seen don’t ph.

FFOF and my natures organic care both didn’t need it. Now that I’m adding liquid nutrients fox farm its bringing it down.
 
Cannabis plants can take quite alot of shit my first grow I put outside at 2 weeks it was maybe 10 Celsius but they bounced back and had semi okay yeilds
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I just thought that’s how organic soil works. Most of the guys I seen don’t ph.

FFOF and my natures organic care both didn’t need it. Now that I’m adding liquid nutrients fox farm its bringing it down.
Some soil blends definitely don't require you to pH your water and a lot of people who grow organic don't bother with it. My opinion, and this is just my opinion, is that you will be depleting your soil of those pH buffers faster when your pH is way off. If my water source was that far off then I would look into something you can use to lower the pH that won't harm the microbial life and will work well for organic grows. I learned a lot about how pH, Ca, and Mg interact when I had a reef tank and built a calcium reactor for it. The difference in the rate the Ca dissolved, based on how much I lowered the pH with CO2, was pretty crazy.
 

Smokeythebear1100

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Some soil blends definitely don't require you to pH your water and a lot of people who grow organic don't bother with it. My opinion, and this is just my opinion, is that you will be depleting your soil of those pH buffers faster when your pH is way off. If my water source was that far off then I would look into something you can use to lower the pH that won't harm the microbial life and will work well for organic grows. I learned a lot about how pH, Ca, and Mg interact when I had a reef tank and built a calcium reactor for it. The difference in the rate the Ca dissolved, based on how much I lowered the pH with CO2, was pretty crazy.
What is wrong here I pulled all the deformed and badly discolored leave off from the start of the stem. Can you help me out ?
 

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