No I havent seen any moving on the leaves just the spots and the fly8ng bug kinda long very tiny tho but more oblong shape and he was on my plant and I got him so mites dont fly but I'm not counting out anything yet. And dunking them huh,I blended a clove of garlic and diluted with 12 cups of water, then sprayed them all temporarily. I guess all bugs hate garlic so I figure I can atleast keep damage control down until I can get some neem or something