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Not quite sure what's going on, and I don't have my books with me for reference. My instinct is telling me look at the new growth instead of the old. Thoughts? Ideas?

Pertinent details are in the journal I'm working right now. Ask for any clarification. Thanks, all. It's appreciated

P.S. More pictures coming up quickly

And this is them under the light

I'd start with more N and move fan away. Fans are good but plants can get wind burn just like you can.

How is worm poop deficient in N?

Is that what windburn looks like?

Here's what they look like today.

Are we just calling it windburn? Seems to have stopped as soon as I adjusted the fan.

Some real input would be greatly appreciated here, folks.

And I have no idea why I'm posting duplicate pictures. Apologies

Poe Kerbuddons said:

Here's what they look like today.

Are we just calling it windburn? Seems to have stopped as soon as I adjusted the fan.

Some real input would be greatly appreciated here, folks.

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It seems to me you answered your own question. I can't tell you about worm poop since I use pro mix with nothing add other than more perlite. The reason is because when you amend your soil with things like that and DONT know what you're doing it makes it that much harder to diagnose problems. Since I start from a "blank slate" the only thing I have to do is give the plants what they need when they need it. It also allows me to give it ONLY as much as it needs. This allowed me to work the kinks out quickly and I've perfected it for my situation.

Just because you might have read somewhere that X amount of such and such amendment being the perfect amount. Keep in mind it's perfect for them. You now have to either learn by trial and error or start learning the subject. This site has a great search bar. Or you could buy a book like marijuana grower's insiders guide. It's easy reading and you can find it used online cheap. Either one of these would help you get an understanding of how to grow healthy plants. You'll have much better results by understanding and planning ahead of the growth of the plant. A healthy plant from start to finish will reward you much better than some stressed plant for whatever it happens to be.

I read and read and planned and planned for a little over a year before I planted seed one. And it didn't stop me from having issues. But it sure gave me the ability to know what was wrong, notice it, and correct it BEFORE it effected my plants. The effort gave me a good first crop and I've been hooked since. Now I'm dialed in but I'm not following anyone and never have. Indoor gardens are all different. So what I'm saying is no one can give you the perfect answer. There are guidelines and easily found on this site. But you'll learn one thing always effects another indoors. For instance humidity is easily decreased with a dehumidifier BUT it gives off heat. That could be a great thing. It's heating my garden lights out right now. But during the summer I can't slowly pulling in cool air free of charge. So during the summer it becomes a negative because I need an A/C to counter the heat by product.

This is why I hate this fucking site these days. Everyone seems to be a professor with a lecture and life lesson but lacking simple answers to simple questions.

If you don't know what the spotting on the leaves is, please just say so and/or reference me to someone who does.

Thank you

If you don't want to read and learn maybe you shouldn't get on people trying to Fing help you. What don't you get? I told you they look low on N but it's dam hard to tell when they're trying to survive hurricane conditions! Like I said reading and learning would help you because no one in their right mind would put the fan right up to the middle of plant and blast it! But if you put in a little effort you'd have known that and never had to ask the stupid question in the first place.

Besides that if you plan on just popping on here asking questions like this and relying on people you don't know. Not only will you get wise ass answers you'll also be given the absolute wrong answer from time to time. And if you don't know it's just a matter of time until you're doing things you don't need to be.

rest assured if I remember your handle I won't be helping!

GOLDBERG71 said:

If you don't want to read and learn maybe you shouldn't get on people trying to Fing help you. What don't you get? I told you they look low on N but it's dam hard to tell when they're trying to survive hurricane conditions! Like I said reading and learning would help you because no one in their right mind would put the fan right up to the middle of plant and blast it! But if you put in a little effort you'd have known that and never had to ask the stupid question in the first place.

Besides that if you plan on just popping on here asking questions like this and relying on people you don't know. Not only will you get wise ass answers you'll also be given the absolute wrong answer from time to time. And if you don't know it's just a matter of time until you're doing things you don't need to be.

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So very true.

Your plants look like they have a lot of problems. Back to basics.
What is your pH?
What is the pH of your runoff?
Flush with pH'd water and feed 1/4 to 1/2 strength general veg nutes.

Your plants are showing some severe deficiencies. When this happens they either are deficient in a lot of things or they are suffering a lockout from too much of something or improper pH.

Could also be root problems if you have been overwatering, but they aren't drooping so I don't think so.

If you are growing organic, it is probably too late to save them without synthetics. Organic takes preparation and time which I don't think you have.

SilentQ said:

Your plants look like they have a lot of problems. Back to basics.
What is your pH?
What is the pH of your runoff?
Flush with pH'd water and feed 1/4 to 1/2 strength general veg nutes.

Your plants are showing some severe deficiencies. When this happens they either are deficient in a lot of things or they are suffering a lockout from too much of something or improper pH.

Could also be root problems if you have been overwatering, but they aren't drooping so I don't think so.

If you are growing organic, it is probably too late to save them without synthetics. Organic takes preparation and time which I don't think you have.

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I've really suspected pH as the issue. But I need corroboration to my gut feeling to go splurge on something like a pH meter.

And truthfully, I'm really having a hard time believing any sort of deficiency with worm poop being the nute base. Not saying it isn't, just doesn't make much sense. Is it possible?

You said, "a lot of problems...some severe deficiencies," but besides pH, you didn't really go much deeper. Could you please clarify?

And could it be windburn as Goldberg suggested?

And why does the new growth look so godsdammed gorgeous?

Thanks for the help, man. I'd normally check my books(where I swear I've seen this shit), but they're in storage a thousand miles away

GOLDBERG71 said:

rest assured if I remember your handle I won't be helping!

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If you were actually interested in helping, rather than talking about yourself and or smugly down to me, that might be bothersome. Good day, sir.

I can try to clarify about the deficiencies. Gonna make you work for it though. Google a nutrient ph uptake chart and take a look at the the ph levels at which nutrients are absorbed.

There are high ph nutes and low ones for soil. That is why you want to be in the middle 6.5-6.8 ish. Soil will give you a bit of a buffer, too. Basically if you are only showing deficiencies in one range or the other, it is likely a ph problem. You may even be able to get away without measuring ph, but the dropper kit is under $10. Do not use baking soda to raise ph, that is sodium.

Also, watch the new growth for non-mobile nutrient problems and the old growth for mobile nutrient problems. (They have tonnes of mobile and non-mobile nuts charts. Google will be your friend on this one). There are some nutes that, if the plant can't get, it will take from lower old growth and some where the new growth will be affected because it can't take from old growth of the soil.