Help with plants

Alfred2

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I need help with my plant problems. Could be nothing but im a first time grower and it just doesnt seem right. Im about a month and a half into the grow. Still in veg stage. they are growing strong but the leafs appear to be a light green. Almost yellowish. The lower leaves were very yellow but i pruned them off. Some of the tips are brown and yellow but very few. Any help i could get at figuring out whats wrong would be greatly appreciated.

I will post pics if someone can tell me how. I have pics on my iphone not sure how to attach them through the mobile site
 

Ringsixty

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I need help with my plant problems. Could be nothing but im a first time grower and it just doesnt seem right. Im about a month and a half into the grow. Still in veg stage. they are growing strong but the leafs appear to be a light green. Almost yellowish. The lower leaves were very yellow but i pruned them off. Some of the tips are brown and yellow but very few. Any help i could get at figuring out whats wrong would be greatly appreciated.

I will post pics if someone can tell me how. I have pics on my iphone not sure how to attach them through the mobile site
Post Pics...go to ( Go Advance Tab) under you message. Got to ( Manage Attachments)
 

DeeTee

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Sounds to me that it might be Nitrogen deficiency, what are you feeding her? could use more info, lights, temps etc., needless to say pics would be nice.
 

Po boy

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i agree with Dee Tee about needing nitrogen. get a well balance fertilizer to get the leaf color back. GL
 

Alfred2

New Member
600 watt MH bulb
Temp a steady 80 fahrenheit
great air circulation
using DNF nutriution formula. Called success in a box. Its got grow/bloom ferts, plus a ton of other enhancers, folore spray etc...
 

Ringsixty

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What's your PH? Watering schedule. Possible a couple things compounding your problem.. I'm leaning towards a Lock Out going on.
 

topfuel29

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Like RingSixty said this could all be from a pH Lock-out.
Pic1 looks like a calcium deficiency, also in pic 1 you can see leaf tips bent under, burnt tips, leafs are a light green color. Pic 1 Leaf Petiole looks Red could be a Phophrus defiencey or it could just be natural to the strain.
The burnt tips could be a Nitrogen deficiency. The curling is probly from a potassium defiencey. Your leaves will curl under from over fert, but from the light green color of your leaves I don't think it's over Fert.
Pic 2
Pic 3 Necrosis all over the leaf, could be from alot of things. It's a older lower leaf from what I can see some times they do that.

Some of this might be from over water.

Whats the rest of the plant look like?
 

Alfred2

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I water every three or four days. Whenever the pots feel light. I always use ph'd water that has sat for at least 48 hours. PH 6.5 when watering. Im going to test the run off tonight to see if its high. The plants seemed to stop growing recently and the nods are getting very close together. I will take more pics tonight and post asap.

As for nutes im using a lot less than the suggested amount. I was concerned about nute burn so im not using a lot.
 

Jonus

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As a general rule, if the strength of the salt content in your grow media (which we will call the E.C) exceeds that of the salt content in your plants roots and stem, then moisture will be leeched out of the plant rather than in. This happens irregardless of whether or not you have the pH correct, or your feeding regime is every 3-4 days. Pots can dry out just from the often low humidity in a grow room so it is not an indicator that plants are actually absorbing via the roots.

Nutrient retailers often define plant problems in terms like nutrient lockout and deficiencies because to them they want your every response to be to go buy some other additive. Growers have taken on this language, but it is not true description of what is really taking place.

Down in the bio level of your plants, its salinity, and acidity that determine uptake of water, and the nutrient that has attached itself to the water molecules. Roots either uptake water, and the nutrient that is dissolved into the water, or they leech water and nutrient that is dissolved in the water. Leeching often leads to wildly swinging pH or acidity levels. When acidity is too low, nitrogen is unable to be released from media leading to nitrogen deficiency. When the acid levels are too base or alkaline, potassium and phosphorous are not released from media particles leading to deficiencies.

As you can see, if you are keeping track, merely feeding more nitrogen when you have a nitrogen deficiency, where that deficiency came from a pH swing that was caused by too much salt content in the grow media which caused plants to leech nutrients rather than uptake them, feeding more nitrogen is merely adding more salt to the media, making things worse.

To self regulate the salinity without having to use one of those expensive EC soil test meters, feed every second watering, and every other time you water, just use plain old water and flush water, which means feeding enough water through that there is significant runoff. Drain this runoff away and you will prevent salt from building up around the roots.

In doing so you will also find the pH, and/or the acidity stabilizes. Swinging pH is often a sign that roots are leeching moisture rather than taking it up. With the leeching moisture is also nutrients that is carried in the moisture. The longer this happens the quicker the nutrients build up in the root area, nutrient buildup is a fancy term for high salt.

To fix a problem that has caused a deficiency, flush your media out with fresh water. In this case, give it a thorough flushing.
 

Alfred2

New Member
Thanks so much i will definetly give this a try and post my findings. This is a soil grow. And i have been watering with nutes every time albeit at 1/4 strength. I will try the technique above and post the results
 
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