Help with pale looking autos in DTE and Roots organic.

FirstCavApache64 · Nov 2, 2021

I have some bubba trouble autos at day 10 that are really pale and just don't seem to be off to the start I expected to be seeing. They're in 3 gallon fabric pots of basic Roots organic potting soil with Great White root stuff mixed in.

However this is the second time I've tried to use dried organic fertilizers instead of bottled salt nutes and last time was outdoors with photos so I'm in very new territory. Can anyone give me some advice on how to get some nitrogen into these babies quickly and very cheaply. I have DTE 4-4-4 mixed in the soil per recommended ratio for several and the other I top dressed two days ago as it didn't have anything but I figured the Roots organic would be good for a couple weeks. They are starting to take off and get going now but I'm just used to quicker growth. It could just be because I switched from Happy Frog and salt nutes on previous grows to this combo and it's just me being inexperienced with it. I have Dr. Earth flower girl and growers Recharge I can use if that helps any. I was going to top dress with it in about two weeks as they began to flower. Thanks for any advice you guys can offer. I'm lost with a lot of this and the dry amendments seemed like a good way to start.

farangar · Nov 2, 2021

They look fine to me.

Plants that young don't need a lot of nitrogen so leave them be for a week or two and let us know how they go.

Weedvin · Nov 2, 2021

FirstCavApache64 said:
I have some bubba trouble autos at day 10 that are really pale and just don't seem to be off to the start I expected to be seeing. They're in 3 gallon fabric pots of basic Roots organic potting soil with Great White root stuff mixed in.View attachment 5021470 View attachment 5021471 However this is the second time I've tried to use dried organic fertilizers instead of bottled salt nutes and last time was outdoors with photos so I'm in very new territory. Can anyone give me some advice on how to get some nitrogen into these babies quickly and very cheaply. I have DTE 4-4-4 mixed in the soil per recommended ratio for several and the other I top dressed two days ago as it didn't have anything but I figured the Roots organic would be good for a couple weeks. They are starting to take off and get going now but I'm just used to quicker growth. It could just be because I switched from Happy Frog and salt nutes on previous grows to this combo and it's just me being inexperienced with it. I have Dr. Earth flower girl and growers Recharge I can use if that helps any. I was going to top dress with it in about two weeks as they began to flower. Thanks for any advice you guys can offer. I'm lost with a lot of this and the dry amendments seemed like a good way to start.

If you don't have decaying plant matter ( 80% of compost) your dry ingredients will be VERY SLOW AND NOT TOO EFFICIENT.

FirstCavApache64 · Nov 2, 2021

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farangar said:
They look fine to me.

Plants that young don't need a lot of nitrogen so leave them be for a week or two and let us know how they go.

Even with an auto flower? I normally don't stress over a leaf color or burnt tips this early but with autos I'm just afraid of stunting growth during the short period of time before they transition into flower. Thanks for your help.

FirstCavApache64 · Nov 2, 2021

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Weedvin said:
If you don't have decaying plant matter ( 80% of compost) your dry ingredients will be VERY SLOW AND NOT TOO EFFICIENT.

Should I have added compost to the Roots soil? I made the assumption, incorrectly I guess now, that the soil would have enough decaying matter the same way Fox Farms stuff does but this is a much cleaner mix with very little large organic matter in it so I'm not sure. Would making a tea with the dry amendments help to deliver the nutrition any better or should I just let things progress as they are. Thanks

Weedvin · Nov 2, 2021

FirstCavApache64 said:
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Should I have added compost to the Roots soil? I made the assumption, incorrectly I guess now, that the soil would have enough decaying matter the same way Fox Farms stuff does but this is a much cleaner mix with very little large organic matter in it so I'm not sure. Would making a tea with the dry amendments help to deliver the nutrition any better or should I just let things progress as they are. Thanks

Good composts will eliminate ALL the guesswork and playing god

Composting has been going on for thousands of years, without mans bullshit chemicals.

Dorian2 · Nov 2, 2021

Here are my 2 Auto's (Super Siver Haze and Kings Bread) at day 8. In my first attempt at organic soil. Seedlings are in base mix without nutrients except Worms castings (Promix HP, Worm Catings, Perlite). Yours look fine to me.

Marq1340 · Nov 2, 2021

FirstCavApache64 said:
I have some bubba trouble autos at day 10....I have DTE 4-4-4 mixed in the soil per recommended ratio for several and the other I top dressed two days ago as it didn't have anything but I figured the Roots organic would be good for a couple weeks

You top dressed at day 8? Or you're saying you wanted to?

FirstCavApache64 · Nov 2, 2021

Marq1340 said:
You top dressed at day 8? Or you're saying you wanted to?

I put some of the DTE 4-4-4 on at the 1 tbls per gallon rate. It said use 1-2 tablespoons per gallon of media. I worked it into the top two inches and watered it in. The two I top dressed were the ones I hadn't put any into the soil when I mixed the dirt into the pots. They were just plain Roots organic potting soil. I haven't seen any signs of burn and from what I had read at that point a low level top dressing shouldn't burn them. Did I screw up by going so early?

Marq1340 · Nov 3, 2021

FirstCavApache64 said:
I put some of the DTE 4-4-4 on at the 1 tbls per gallon rate. It said use 1-2 tablespoons per gallon of media. I worked it into the top two inches and watered it in. The two I top dressed were the ones I hadn't put any into the soil when I mixed the dirt into the pots. They were just plain Roots organic potting soil. I haven't seen any signs of burn and from what I had read at that point a low level top dressing shouldn't burn them. Did I screw up by going so early?

I'm just being overly dramatic over here, you should be fine.

I wouldn't have done it personal.

FirstCavApache64 · Nov 3, 2021

Thanks, I just tend to push autos a little harder than I should probably because I always feel like I'm on a stopwatch. Plus I thought it would take a while for the organics to get down into the media and have any availability for the plant via top dressing with dry amendments. I'm just going to try and leave them the hell alone for a bit and water them when they need it. Appreciate all the advice.

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