Help with feed Schedule , PLEASE.

My Nutes on order:

Botanicare Hydroplex
Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Bloom 1-4-5-1
Botanicare Liquid Karma
Botanicare Cal Mag Plus

Feeding schedule:

Sprout/Seedling (about 1-2 weeks from sprout) - Nothing
Clones - 5ml PBPB per gal
Young Plant - 10ml PBPB per gal
Mature Plant - 15ml PBPB per gal
Flowering Plant - 15ml PBPB/5ml CalMag per gal until flush

Questions:

1. How does that feeding schedule look?
2. Where should I use the Hydroplex and Karma and at what ML per gallon?
3. PH- 5.5 to 6 and weekly water changes?

Thanks!

check this guy nutrient recipe . its been helping a lot of botanicare PBP users

good luck and happy growing

Ok, what's his name? LOL

https://www.rollitup.org/t/superstoners-new-3-rail-50gal-system-36-40oz-every-2-weeks.838636/page-10#post-10880555

also you should add sweet to increase Magnesium in flower

Hey I forgot to mention if you use RO water cal mag at 5ml is fine but if you use tap water i will go with 1 to 2ml a gal. I use this spreadsheet for my nutrient calculations. http://www.wikiupload.com/TJJ0ITB0K5DR3MJ

just change gallons and strength in red

this is what I go by

PPM @ .68 Conversion
Seedlings/Early sprouts 100-250
Early Vegging 300-400
Full Vegetation 450-700
Early Blooming 750-850
Mid/Mature Bloom 900-1020

also you didn't mention what system you use?

Good luck and happy growing

Let me explain how ridiculous this has gotten. I vape 1/10th of a gram 2 times a day. 4 oz lasts me 12 months. I moved to another state ran out and have no hookup here. All i need to do is grow 4 small plants a year not become an MIT horticulturalist.

I'v'e spent over $1000 on growing supplies and haven't even germed a seed. I've spent countless hours reading and learning, all for 4 little fucking plants.

I'm an old dude, I just need a little weed to keep my arthritis at bay. The god damn ass backwards government here won't allow MMJ, so I have so spend my social security money and break the law just so I have a little more quality of life in my remaining years. Yea, it's messed up. But lets move on.

Time is of the essence. so I'm doing Bubbleponics. 6 x 3" net pots in a 10 gallon tub. Rockwool, Hydrotron. I will have air stones in the rez, top feeder DWC This is the one I bought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130832732812

150 HPS, the one from HTG supply.

Seeds I have on order are short stuff #1. It' supposed to flower after it's second lateral at 20/4 and smokeable at 3 weeks. It's a short, fast, low growing strain. I order them from Herbies and they have not arrived yet. http://shortstuffseeds.com/shortstuff-seedbank/number-one/

I have a small tent Lighthouse 3x2x5, fan and carbon filter. Have a ph meter, thermometer etc. What I don't own is an PPM meter because originally I was going to grow in pro-mix but bubbleponics is much faster, so I'm going to try hydro.

I need to keep this as simple as possible. Oh yea, I'm I'm using tap water

I feel you bro. you need a ppm meter so every time you feed your plants in soil or hydro you will know how much your feeding them instead of guessing. I have zero experience with DWC but just in case keep an eye on res temp. root rot is our worst enemy in hydro.

ps promix will be more easier and forgiving

Well, that's not good news. I did find this and do plan on 4 air stones and a 4 port eco air pump. So maybe if I use an additive and lots of air bubbles I can get through a grow.

1. Some people like to add beneficial bacteria to their water to help prevent and treat root-related plant diseases and help make nutrients available to the plant. Some of the formulas available are Hydroguard, Aquashield, Piranha, VooDoo Juice, Great White (Great White has great reviews, yet is obscenely expensive), Subculture B, Rooters, and Plant Savers. Most of these can be used with both hydro and soil grows. I personally recommend Hydroguard because I've used it successfully to treat Root Rot (and it's also very affordably priced, you can use it throughout your grow without breaking the bank).
   
   
2. As I mentioned, it is incredibly beneficial to try to get as much oxygen as possible dissolved in your water. Therefore it's a good idea to buy a BIG air pump and big air stones for your hydroponic system. The more bubbles and surface agitation, the better, as this dissolves more oxygen into the water. Root rot cannot thrive in an oxygen-rich environment and your plants roots will love it. I use one EcoPlus 2 Air Pump w/ 2 Outlets for each 10 gallon container, which I have connected to 2 large air stones per air pump (since this one 2 outlets - this helps make sure there's plenty of oxygen in the water healthy roots and faster growth). This has worked great for me - I haven't had root rot since I started using this air pumps/air stone combination.
   

I looked at those chillers and they were big money.

it sound like you know what you doing so good job. some people get away with pbp bloom in veg stage but the one that you mention 1-4-5 is bloom for soil with low nitrogen. try to get pbp grow if you can.

here is what you ask in your first post

10ml Grow, 6ml Ca Mg, 2ml Sweet, 2ml LK 725 PPM Veg Cal Mag + 1ml/gal = 42ppm @.68
5ml PBP Soil, 5ml Grow, 6ml Ca Mg, 2ml LK, 2ml Sweet 725 PPM w1-w2 Bloom
10ml PBP Soil, 6ml Ca Mg, 3ml Sweet, 2ml LK, 2ml Hydroplex 840 PPM w3-w4
10ml PBP Soil, 6ml Ca Mg, 4ml Sweet, 2ml LK, 3ml Hydroplex 900 PPM w5-w6
10ml PBP Soil, 6ml Ca Mg, 5ml Sweet, 2ml LK, 5ml Hydroplex 1005 PPM w7-Harvest

or the simple GrowGreen's Nute Recipe
15ml of either bloom or grow
5ml cal mag
2ml lk
Seedlings/Early sprouts 100-250 ppm
Early Vegging 300-400 ppm
Full Vegetation 450-700 ppm
Early Blooming 750-850 ppm
Mid/Mature Bloom 900-1020 ppm

get a ppm meter and test your tap water. most strain like 170-230 ppm in tap water and you don't have to add cal mag +

ignore cal mag in the recipe thats for reverse osmosis. unfortunately my tap water is 430 ppm and RO is a must in my case.

good luck buddy and happy growing

I thought I would come back and post what I found. Here are two posts from experienced growers and keeping root rot at bay.

1. Air, air and more air per bucket. Also the airstones are probably a good idea to replace every cycle.

2. I've survived dwc with nothing but multiplied Orca liquid and > 10lpm air per plant in 5 gal buckets and 110lpm in 31 gal totes. I don't even track nute temps.

Frankly I've left the bennies out, they're more insurance than anything. Lotsa air. Never count on an airstone after 90 days, toss it.

Get a ppm meter. Youll need to watch what its eating. Youd better watch your ppms. Some of these guys are telling you to feed at 1000 plus ppm, ya dont do that....your light is a 150 hps so your just going to grow a small plant. 1000 plus is for plants that are under 1000 watt bulbs and fall over. Yours wont need thatextream feeding. Id max out at 7ish. Bloom is when they eat the most, weeks one through five id say. Taper off at the end and cut out calmag. And yes...you should be supplementing some calmag throughout. Calmag.

Shit, still don't have a feeding schedule that I understand and will work for my sized setup.

Your'e right Alien. I'm growing small plants and 150w is all I have. I have the PPM meter on order. Where would you suggest I keep my PPM's each week?

Hey man I have experience with this line in aeroponics. You should use the pureblend GROW, liquid karma, silica blast, aquashield (hydroguard), calmag at all times, and vitamino only as needed for mineral defs.

For flowering it's the pureblend pro BLOOM, liquid karma, calmag, sweet, silica blast, aquashield (hydroguard), vitamino all the time. Use the hydroplex from weeks 3-7 depending on strain variety. Message me if you have any questions or make it so I see your reply.

personal lux said:

Hey man I have experience with this line in aeroponics. You should use the pureblend GROW, liquid karma, silica blast, aquashield (hydroguard), calmag at all times, and vitamino only as needed for mineral defs.

For flowering it's the pureblend pro BLOOM, liquid karma, calmag, sweet, silica blast, aquashield (hydroguard), vitamino all the time. Use the hydroplex from weeks 3-7 depending on strain variety. Message me if you have any questions or make it so I see your reply.

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I'm having a hard time pming you. I may not have enough posts.

Is this too agressive for 150w hps hydro, bubbleponics top feed DWC?

Sprout/Seedling (about 1-2 weeks from sprout) - Nothing
Clones - 5ml PBPB per gal
Young Plant - 10ml PBPB per gal
Mature Plant - 15ml PBPB per gal
Flowering Plant - 15ml PBPB/5ml CalMag per gal until flush

botani pro, for a 8 week strain in bloom, 12 ml a gallon of pro weeks 1 through 4, Cal mag with tap water,2.5 ml a gallon, silica 5 ml a gallon,
weeks 5 through 6 pro soil formula, 12 ml a gallon drop cal mag and silica,
weeks 7 and 8 2 ml a gallon pro soil formula,
for other strains dependent on time drop to 2 ml a gallon of pro soil formula 2 weeks before finish.
use some kind of bennie bacteria the first two weeks,
this works pretty well ,

Earlyriser76 said:

I need to keep this as simple as possible.

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Then dump the DWC and go soil. DWC, hell.. HYDRO isn't for first timers. And DWC is tricky. Go buy some potting soil and a pot and some miracle grow. You'll be better off.

Earlyriser76 said:

My Nutes on order:

Botanicare Hydroplex
Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Bloom 1-4-5-1
Botanicare Liquid Karma
Botanicare Cal Mag Plus

Feeding schedule:

Sprout/Seedling (about 1-2 weeks from sprout) - Nothing
Clones - 5ml PBPB per gal
Young Plant - 10ml PBPB per gal
Mature Plant - 15ml PBPB per gal
Flowering Plant - 15ml PBPB/5ml CalMag per gal until flush

Questions:

1. How does that feeding schedule look?
2. Where should I use the Hydroplex and Karma and at what ML per gallon?
3. PH- 5.5 to 6 and weekly water changes?

Thanks!

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If I was you I would def. add a root stimulator and a microbe during veg and make sure you use an enzyme product throughout your grow to assist in nutrient uptake and break down nutrients to make them more readily available for uptake.

Whenever I use the Pure Blend series during bloom I add or recommend adding a late bloom booster around week 5/6 such as Bloombastic or PK 13/14 from Canna. I prefer Bloom Bastic with PB series but it really make a difference during final stages of flowering.

Also dont use Cal/Mag past week 4 you dont need it. But if you do switch to the organic Cali Magic from General Organics mid way. You have to remember that the Cal Mag plus from Botanicare is synthetic and can be counter productive to your bene's and microbes and I advise using an organic cal/mag supplement at 5 ml/gal (depending on strain sometimes I have to use as much as 8/10 on some of the Chem and OG phenos).