Help with Clawing

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Scevr

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Hi All,

I am hoping someone can give me a few suggestions on what maybe going on with one of my plants. I am a new grower going through my first grow and am running into issues with some new growth clawing on one of my plants. I received the plants 12 days ago and they were in a bit of rough shape. They had the ends of most leaves cut off and a few that were yellowing. Not knowing where they were too in age, I started them of for a week at ~500ppm, then did my first res change after 7 days and have them at ~850-900ppm. I noticed in the first week what appeared to be overwatering, so when i did my res change i moved the drips back an inch or so. I have listed my details below:

Pictures: I have included 3 pictures of my plant clawing, 1 of my healthier plant (img#20210116_093920.jpg), one of the res setup and one of the two plants in the tent.

1) Growing indoor
2) Watering schedule, Continuous Drip RDWC
4) Growing Medium: Hydroton
5) Age: Not Sure: I am currently using week#2 of the GH recirculating feed chart

Current Details (All ml/g following Week 2 of GH recirculating feed chart)
PPM: ~900ppm
PH: ~5.8, I find every morning its around 6.2 and I have to ph down to ~5.8
Temp: Day 73 - 75, Night ~68
Humidity: 40 - 60 (I have a humidifier that kicks in every 1.5hrs)
Res: 10gallon, temp between 19 and 20.5.
Air: Two air stones with a good boil on in the res.
Water Source: Filtered
Nutrients:
Flora Bloom, Gro, micro
Rapid start
Floralicious Plus
Cal Mag
Enzyme Komplete
PH Down (every morning to keep around 5.8ph)

Thanks for taking a look. Any feedback would be appreciated.
 

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Creature1969

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Clones? Don't look like they're from seed.
900PPM seems awfully high to me.
I just hit 900PPM in coco and I'm 2 weeks into flower.
Wait for some true hydro guys to chime in though.
 
Kushash

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I'll follow also being a soil grower.
Wondering if using cal mag is an issue.
The GH trio already has Ca and Mg so I don't see why cal mag is needed.
Make sure your PH pen is calibrated.
Wait for some true hydro guys to chime in though.
 
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Creature1969 said:
Clones? Don't look like they're from seed.
900PPM seems awfully high to me.
I just hit 900PPM in coco and I'm 2 weeks into flower.
Wait for some true hydro guys to chime in though.
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Thanks for the reply. I think they are clones, the shop I bought them off didn't give me any info on then other than its bruce banner and triangle mints. I am assuming they are clones, I should have asked the age and method used. The shop told me to follow the GH feed chart exactly, despite what I read on forums saying use half of the recommend dose I took their advise. Maybe I should try dropping it back a bit. How long do you typically wait in between trying something before you deem if its a positive or negative change? Thanks again.
 
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Kushash said:
I'll follow also being a soil grower.
Wondering if using cal mag is an issue.
The GH trio already has Ca and Mg so I don't see why cal mag is needed.
Make sure your PH pen is calibrated.
Wait for some true hydro guys to chime in though.
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Thanks for the reply. I calibrated my PH pen and it seems to working fine. Funny you mention the Cal Mag, the shop that I bought everything off of said there was no need for Cal mag with the nutrients I was using, but i figured where I was filtering the water it would be necessary. Should I just remove a couple litres of nutrients and replace with fresh water, then ph balance? Or do you think I should start over with my res nutrients? Thanks again.
 
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Corso312 said:
Id cut your nutes down to half what you're using and slowly work your way up. Is that RO water or tap you're using?
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I am using tap water through a camoc RV filter. I'll swap some nutrients out with fresh water to see how they do. Thanks.
 
Creature1969

Creature1969

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Scevr said:
Holy crap, I really blew that out of proportion using the GH recirculating feed chat. Thanks for the chart, what does the PPM500 versus PPM700 rows represent? Would it be a upper and lower range? Thanks
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.500 scale is US measurement, .700 is EU. Just different conversions of EC. This is why most go by EC# as that's universal.
Almost every manufacturers feed chart is obscene. The more you use, the more $$ they make. :bigjoint:
 
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Creature1969 said:
.500 scale is US measurement, .700 is EU. Just different conversions of EC. This is why most go by EC# as that's universal.
Almost every manufacturers feed chart is obscene. The more you use, the more $$ they make. :bigjoint:
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Awesome, I have removed some nutrients and added back fresh water. I'll post back the results in a few days. Thanks everyone for all the advise.
 
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Scevr

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After reducing the nutrients that solved the issue. The one on the left was the one clawing, and while the growth is a bit behind the one on the right, it now appears healthy. Thanks all.
 

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Bushbaby11

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Scevr said:
Hi All,

I am hoping someone can give me a few suggestions on what maybe going on with one of my plants. I am a new grower going through my first grow and am running into issues with some new growth clawing on one of my plants. I received the plants 12 days ago and they were in a bit of rough shape. They had the ends of most leaves cut off and a few that were yellowing. Not knowing where they were too in age, I started them of for a week at ~500ppm, then did my first res change after 7 days and have them at ~850-900ppm. I noticed in the first week what appeared to be overwatering, so when i did my res change i moved the drips back an inch or so. I have listed my details below:

Pictures: I have included 3 pictures of my plant clawing, 1 of my healthier plant (img#20210116_093920.jpg), one of the res setup and one of the two plants in the tent.

1) Growing indoor
2) Watering schedule, Continuous Drip RDWC
4) Growing Medium: Hydroton
5) Age: Not Sure: I am currently using week#2 of the GH recirculating feed chart

Current Details (All ml/g following Week 2 of GH recirculating feed chart)
PPM: ~900ppm
PH: ~5.8, I find every morning its around 6.2 and I have to ph down to ~5.8
Temp: Day 73 - 75, Night ~68
Humidity: 40 - 60 (I have a humidifier that kicks in every 1.5hrs)
Res: 10gallon, temp between 19 and 20.5.
Air: Two air stones with a good boil on in the res.
Water Source: Filtered
Nutrients:
Flora Bloom, Gro, micro
Rapid start
Floralicious Plus
Cal Mag
Enzyme Komplete
PH Down (every morning to keep around 5.8ph)

Thanks for taking a look. Any feedback would be appreciated.
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nutes are too high, causing nitrogen toxicity...in hydro less is more.
 
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