Help strange things are happening!!!

Ok so this is my third season of growing and and after a very successful last one ! This is now happening! I have no clue the two that are struggling are blueberry kush and the other two are two different strains, one is i banana jack and the other one is White widow I'm doing all the same things to them but yet the difference is crazy! I'm thinking maybe potassium deficiency I was thinking of adding some Epsom salts with my water but I use Cal mag so doesn't make sense! and I don't want to water anymore due to it may be in over-watering problem but like I said the other two are doing fine what do you guys think ? Also the banna jack grew in a strange way and has two tops ! On it's own ! I was reading that streas could do that mabe ? I don't know what kind of stress I've given them also the small girl the cup is a back up lol fuck the first year I can grow them legal and they are not working for me lol help please!!

looks like over watering but you should post more info

how often are you watering/feeding, & with what?
temp/RH?
ph run off?

hopefully one of the pro's can chime in but it looks like overwatering and it's causing a nutrient lockout. you'll no doubt have to foliar feed and let it dry out for some time depending on how much you've been watering them.

Give us the low down on your grow :

Medium
Temps
Lights
Light height
Nutes
Water ( type and frequency)
Ph

Shoe size ..

Right off the cuff it looks like potassium / overwatering.

But will look at your grow setup and what you are using.

Budzbuddha said:

Give us the low down on your grow :

Medium
Temps
Lights
Light height
Nutes
Water ( type and frequency)
Ph

Shoe size ..

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Budzbuddha said:

Right off the cuff it looks like potassium / overwatering.

But will look at your grow setup and what you are using.

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Ok
600w Mars led 2 feet away 16 hours on 8 hours off
28c when lights are on and 21c when light are off
Nuets I'm using the fox farm stuff grow big , bug bloom , and tiger bloom
Water is just tap and I was watering a small watering can every 3 days
pH no clue

Budzbuddha said:

Right off the cuff it looks like potassium / overwatering.

But will look at your grow setup and what you are using.

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So but I've watered the one that looks great the same way the one that is doing good is a bit in the shad do to the fan I'm thinking that may be it but I've used this light before with no problems

Do you think foliar feeding is ok on it's own while waiting bor the soil to drain ? Also I'm using foxfarm ocean Forrest as the medium

Probably should get a ph / tds pen. Municipal water sources vary in ppm and ph.

Every plant feeds differently.... just cuz some like one way doesn’t mean all do ... some like lighter , some are mag whores , some are heavy feeders.

I use FFOF and it has enough Nutes in it ( from the bag ) to feed a plant. As long as you keep water ph around 6.3 - 6.5 ( FFOF is at 6.3 / prebuffered) then it’s fine.

Also remember Fox Farms feeding schedule is just a guide only. And often you can use 1/2 strength.

Ph your water ( for baseline ) and your “ feeds “ .... Nutes added in water often throws ph high or low so you need to know if you are in proper “ range “. I stopped using the FF nute line and instead just either bubble a cheesecloth bag with FFOF in it ( to make a tea ) for watering / feed . Or just a simple top dress of more FFOF recharges the medium. However , FFOF alone will feed up to 5 weeks all by itself.

Easy problem fix by checking your PH GOING IN. Whether water or feed.
Too far out of acceptable range and you get deficiencies/ lock out. Plus know that FF Nutes salt up
fast which can cause similar issues. Less is more , since FFOF is already a hotter soil , than most bagged soil.

And

Budzbuddha said:

Probably should get a ph / tds pen. Municipal water sources vary in ppm and ph.

Every plant feeds differently.... just cuz some like one way doesn’t mean all do ... some like lighter , some are mag whores , some are heavy feeders.

I use FFOF and it has enough Nutes in it ( from the bag ) to feed a plant. As long as you keep water ph around 6.3 - 6.5 ( FFOF is at 6.3 / prebuffered) then it’s fine.

Also remember Fox Farms feeding schedule is just a guide only. And often you can use 1/2 strength.

Ph your water ( for baseline ) and your “ feeds “ .... Nutes added in water often throws ph high or low so you need to know if you are in proper “ range “. I stopped using the FF nute line and instead just either bubble a cheesecloth bag with FFOF in it ( to make a tea ) for watering / feed . Or just a simple top dress of more FFOF recharges the medium. However , FFOF alone will feed up to 5 weeks all by itself.

Easy problem fix by checking your PH GOING IN. Whether water or feed.
Too far out of acceptable range and you get deficiencies/ lock out. Plus know that FF Nutes salt up
fast which can cause similar issues. Less is more , since FFOF is already a hotter soil , than most bagged soil.

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It's so strange last year I have 4 huge trees lol by doing the same thing now I'm having issues lol makes no sense to me

Budzbuddha said:

Probably should get a ph / tds pen. Municipal water sources vary in ppm and ph.

Every plant feeds differently.... just cuz some like one way doesn’t mean all do ... some like lighter , some are mag whores , some are heavy feeders.

I use FFOF and it has enough Nutes in it ( from the bag ) to feed a plant. As long as you keep water ph around 6.3 - 6.5 ( FFOF is at 6.3 / prebuffered) then it’s fine.

Also remember Fox Farms feeding schedule is just a guide only. And often you can use 1/2 strength.

Ph your water ( for baseline ) and your “ feeds “ .... Nutes added in water often throws ph high or low so you need to know if you are in proper “ range “. I stopped using the FF nute line and instead just either bubble a cheesecloth bag with FFOF in it ( to make a tea ) for watering / feed . Or just a simple top dress of more FFOF recharges the medium. However , FFOF alone will feed up to 5 weeks all by itself.

Easy problem fix by checking your PH GOING IN. Whether water or feed.
Too far out of acceptable range and you get deficiencies/ lock out. Plus know that FF Nutes salt up
fast which can cause similar issues. Less is more , since FFOF is already a hotter soil , than most bagged soil.

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So do you think I should wait untill the potato are light when I do the pick up that before watering again ( even if it takes a few weeks ) ? Should I
foliar feed with Cal mag untill then ? What's the optimal rage for pH ? And is a cheap yellow any good ?

Also .... using led ( blurple ) .... spread your feeds and watering. Plants under these panels transpire LESS than say hps lights , so it takes a little longer to dry out.

And you CAN Foliar grow big . Preferably before lights on since you may burn leaf. But you can give them a spray at lights out ( watch your Rh ) .

This is correctable but leaves will not fully change back , you are only trying to stop progress.
You will be fine ... lol

Budzbuddha said:

Also .... using led ( blurple ) .... spread your feeds and watering. Plants under these panels transpire LESS than say hps lights , so it takes a little longer to dry out.

And you CAN Foliar grow big . Preferably before lights on since you may burn leaf. But you can give them a spray at lights out ( watch your Rh ) .

This is correctable but leaves will not fully change back , you are only trying to stop progress.
You will be fine ... lol

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Should I be starting with grow big now ? I haven't started any nuits yet since I'm using that soil . Also what's RN ?

I use these .....

Eco is from Walmart website ..... tds / ppm pen available anywhere ( Brita used to box them with water pitcher ) but amazon , WALFART , etc.



Ph the Foliar mix ( keep in cheap water bottle ) and use as needed. There “ should “ be plenty of calmag in tap water , but a simple 1 tsp per gallon is fine. Sometimes 2 tsp for heavy maintenance requirements. Foliar will be the quickest method to help treat. Also look for Fox Farms BOOMERANG..... this shit is like magic tonic for sad plants.

Budzbuddha said:

I use these .....

Eco is from Walmart website ..... tds / ppm pen available anywhere ( Brita used to box them with water pitcher ) but amazon , WALFART , etc.

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Ph the Foliar mix ( keep in cheap water bottle ) and use as needed. There “ should “ be plenty of calmag in tap water , but a simple 1 tsp per gallon is fine. Sometimes 2 tsp for heavy maintenance requirements. Foliar will be the quickest method to help treat. Also look for Fox Farms BOOMERANG..... this shit is like magic tonic for sad plants.

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How often should I be using the boomerang and should I use that as a foliar feed as well or should I wait till the soil drys out ? Thanks for the help