Help sex this plant !!!!!

LetsGetCritical

Well-Known Member
well i start with a commercial 'professional seed raising mix' that does have nutrients but not too much to burn the babies and then at 2 weeks will transfer to my homemade mix that currently comprises of bags of free draining 'tomato potting mix' ,a product called dynamic lifter, trace elements, blood and bone, dolomite lime, potash, cow manure and a wetting agent ph'd to 6.5 but I'm very new to soil.
 
They just grow, there's no set ratio of how fast one sex grows over another, Although males do mature quicker in flowering than females. But only during flowering.

As for Soil, Use Fox Farms Ocean Forest. It's perfect for new growers, and i've used it pretty much every year for my outdoor grows with amazing results.
 
males definitely grow taller than females and at a much faster rate. So definitely be careful, good for bb though. the sex remains consistent though. Get a soil that is high in nitrogen with lower levels of potassium and phosphorus. During the vegatative stage plants want more nitro, during flowering they want more of the others
 
I'd recommend " Fox Farms : Grow Big 6-4-4 " Formula ( You can get it super cheap on ebay )

From what i've read, it's realllllly good during the veg stage of plant life, and provides optimal nutrients that promote big stems, good roots, and fat leaves/bud sites.

I just ordered some the other night, and im gonna be using it for my grow aswell.

Anything Fox Farms is really good.
 

ShaoilinWizard

New Member
are random bag seeds gonna produce shitty weed? cause i dont even want to invest but i might not too sure yet but i wanna get cheap soil since they are reg seeds
 
-.- Dude...Just cut them down...It's not even worth trying to grow those plants if your not even semi-prepared.

Do more research and try again..

You're just completely setup for failure right now.

1. Shitty soil
2. You have no idea what you're doing
3. The questions your asking, could all be answered in 20 minutes if you took the time to actually read an article or two.

Now to address your questions.

A.) No, Random bag seeds will not produce shitty weed. Only the grower can personally grow shitty weed.
You get shitty weed from, Low nutrients, improper lighting schedules, bad soil.

The seeds you got will be what ever strain you picked them from, It will share the same genetics as it's mother plant.

Personally, i've grown dank ass nugs from seed i've pulled from Mid-grade Seed&Stem buds, Shit you would pay 50$ for half an ounce on the street. ( Not brown dirt mexi weed, but green mid-grade )

It all depends on how you grow it man...If you feed it properly, and take good care of the plant, you can grow amazing buds.


B.) Like i said, just cut them down. You aren't prepared enough, You'd be lucky if they even make it 2 more weeks before dying on you.

Seriously man, take 100$ go to home depot, get some REAL SOIL, REAL PLANT NUTES and order some Auto-Flowering Seeds from a seed bank.

Auto's are perfect for guys who don't know shit about growing. It's like weed growing on retard mode.

Under 20 hours of light a day, you can yield a couple ounces per plant. And the best thing about Auto's....They're feminized, They dont have a Vegetative stage of their grow, and it takes like 2 and a half months from seed to harvest.

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So in short, Cut those down, Invest in some real material for growing, and try again. Cause those plants will die, unless you go out tomorrow, and get everything you need.
Read more on this website, watch free growing videos, learn everything you can about basic growing, basic cannabis plant life, their growth cycle, everything.

Trust me on this. It makes such an enormous difference when you start a grow, armed with knowledge and the proper tools to grow.

This may come off as harsh, or mean, but thats not the intention.
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NOW if by some miracle, you get everything within the week, this grow could still be salvaged and probably turn out nice.

A few Key points :
You can't tell the sex of a plant, until you've given it 24 hours of complete darkness to reset it's internal lighting schedule clock, and then let it grow under 12 hours of light on, and 12 hours of darkness.
It takes 2-4 weeks for Pollen sacks and Pre-flowers to start showing.

I'm 40 days into my grow, and i still don't know the sex of my plants, because i haven't switched them over to flowering mode yet.

Growing Cannabis takes time, patience, and genuine care for your plants. If you don't care enough to not use the right things for growing, you'll end up with shitty weed, or even worse, no weed.


I hope you read this, and take what i've said into account.

We're here to help you, inform you, and overall spread the knowledge and methods we know so that everyone can be capable of growing their own cannabis plants.
 

ShaoilinWizard

New Member
well like i said the rest of my plants are doing really good i only uploaded the bad ones and yeah i can just transfer into different soil i gave them a small amount of miracle grow plant food 8th the does and noticed an improvement those pics are kinda old but did get a bit of a burn like i said im just gonna ride it out until i get my seeds but if you can help me with what soil to get ill build a 2nd box just for the autosIMG_20131015_062906 (1).jpg
 
......Thats all the lights your using?

A.) They look to far away from the plants to even be useful.
B.) i hope you didnt use the same shitty soil...
C.) I've told you 3 times...FOX FARMS OCEAN FOREST. THAT IS THE SOIL YOU WANT.
D.) DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT FEED THEM MIRACLE GROW PLANT FOOD, THAT WILL KILL YOUR PLANTS, I CAN GUARANTEE IT.
What i said was, MIRACLE GROW SOIL, would be better than the 5yr old dirt your using.

Miracle grow causes Nutrient burn quite alot, but if flushed enough times over a few weeks before using it with your plants, it's manageable.


Also, why would you ride it out? Your wasting money by letting those lights run over plants that wont even make it.

-.- Here....let me lay this out for you nice and easy.....

STEP 1: CUT THOSE PLANTS DOWN.
STEP 2: BUY AUTO #1 OR AUTO POUNDER ( These are the strain names, they are feminized autoflowering seeds, that are pretty hard to fuck up )
STEP 3: BUY FOX FARMS OCEAN FOREST SOIL ( IT'S ON AMAZON.COM, EBAY, ALL OVER THE PLACE. )
STEP 4: BUY FOX FARMS NUTRIENTS. ( FOX FARMS : GROW BIG AND TIGER BLOOM )
( on ebay, you can get all 10 of their nutrient products in a set of 4oz bottles for 20$, and it will be enough to supply 4-5 plants per grow, and last about 3-5 grows )
STEP 5: INVEST IN A WATER FILTER.( Brita Filter Water Jugs are no more than 10-15$ at walmart )
( Tap water consists of minerals, that once they build up enough, will burn your plant or give it an abundance of minerals and kill it )
STEP 6: READ GROW JOURNALS HERE ON ROLLITUP.ORG ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ALSO USING AUTO FLOWERING SEEDS WITH CFL BULBS.
Ask them questions, read their data and how they did successful grows.

Growing Cannabis isnt hard...and i've just handed you an idiot proof system to grow good buds.
 

ShaoilinWizard

New Member
alright and how many plants do you recommend for that size box that's 275 watts right now planning to add more and yes i have seen that seed and contemplated getting it
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
......Thats all the lights your using?

A.) They look to far away from the plants to even be useful.
B.) i hope you didnt use the same shitty soil...
C.) I've told you 3 times...FOX FARMS OCEAN FOREST. THAT IS THE SOIL YOU WANT.
D.) DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT FEED THEM MIRACLE GROW PLANT FOOD, THAT WILL KILL YOUR PLANTS, I CAN GUARANTEE IT.
What i said was, MIRACLE GROW SOIL, would be better than the 5yr old dirt your using.


Miracle grow causes Nutrient burn quite alot, but if flushed enough times over a few weeks before using it with your plants, it's manageable.


Also, why would you ride it out? Your wasting money by letting those lights run over plants that wont even make it.

-.- Here....let me lay this out for you nice and easy.....

STEP 1: CUT THOSE PLANTS DOWN.
STEP 2: BUY AUTO #1 OR AUTO POUNDER ( These are the strain names, they are feminized autoflowering seeds, that are pretty hard to fuck up )
STEP 3: BUY FOX FARMS OCEAN FOREST SOIL ( IT'S ON AMAZON.COM, EBAY, ALL OVER THE PLACE. )
STEP 4: BUY FOX FARMS NUTRIENTS. ( FOX FARMS : GROW BIG AND TIGER BLOOM )
( on ebay, you can get all 10 of their nutrient products in a set of 4oz bottles for 20$, and it will be enough to supply 4-5 plants per grow, and last about 3-5 grows )
STEP 5: INVEST IN A WATER FILTER.( Brita Filter Water Jugs are no more than 10-15$ at walmart )
( Tap water consists of minerals, that once they build up enough, will burn your plant or give it an abundance of minerals and kill it )
STEP 6: READ GROW JOURNALS HERE ON ROLLITUP.ORG ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ALSO USING AUTO FLOWERING SEEDS WITH CFL BULBS.
Ask them questions, read their data and how they did successful grows.

Growing Cannabis isnt hard...and i've just handed you an idiot proof system to grow good buds.
WOW man...you really don't have a clue do you...hey OP, on my first grow I used EVERYTHING Miracle Gro....soil, nutes, and perlite...it's what YOU do with it is the main thing...I started my first grow and finished it with MIRACLE GROW....and it came out quite nice and tasty...

Your best bet is to start cheap...MG is a good product so don't listen to the MG haters, it's cheap and readily available...don't go with expensive fox farms to start with on your learning run...good luck and welcome to RIU...
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
-.- Dude...Just cut them down...It's not even worth trying to grow those plants if your not even semi-prepared.

Do more research and try again..

You're just completely setup for failure right now.

1. Shitty soil
2. You have no idea what you're doing
3. The questions your asking, could all be answered in 20 minutes if you took the time to actually read an article or two.

Now to address your questions.

A.) No, Random bag seeds will not produce shitty weed. Only the grower can personally grow shitty weed.
You get shitty weed from, Low nutrients, improper lighting schedules, bad soil.

The seeds you got will be what ever strain you picked them from, It will share the same genetics as it's mother plant.

Personally, i've grown dank ass nugs from seed i've pulled from Mid-grade Seed&Stem buds, Shit you would pay 50$ for half an ounce on the street. ( Not brown dirt mexi weed, but green mid-grade )

It all depends on how you grow it man...If you feed it properly, and take good care of the plant, you can grow amazing buds.


B.) Like i said, just cut them down. You aren't prepared enough, You'd be lucky if they even make it 2 more weeks before dying on you.

Seriously man, take 100$ go to home depot, get some REAL SOIL, REAL PLANT NUTES and order some Auto-Flowering Seeds from a seed bank.

Auto's are perfect for guys who don't know shit about growing. It's like weed growing on retard mode.

Under 20 hours of light a day, you can yield a couple ounces per plant. And the best thing about Auto's....They're feminized, They dont have a Vegetative stage of their grow, and it takes like 2 and a half months from seed to harvest.

______________________________________________________________

So in short, Cut those down, Invest in some real material for growing, and try again. Cause those plants will die, unless you go out tomorrow, and get everything you need.
Read more on this website, watch free growing videos, learn everything you can about basic growing, basic cannabis plant life, their growth cycle, everything.

Trust me on this. It makes such an enormous difference when you start a grow, armed with knowledge and the proper tools to grow.

This may come off as harsh, or mean, but thats not the intention.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

NOW if by some miracle, you get everything within the week, this grow could still be salvaged and probably turn out nice.

A few Key points :
You can't tell the sex of a plant, until you've given it 24 hours of complete darkness to reset it's internal lighting schedule clock, and then let it grow under 12 hours of light on, and 12 hours of darkness.
It takes 2-4 weeks for Pollen sacks and Pre-flowers to start showing.

I'm 40 days into my grow, and i still don't know the sex of my plants, because i haven't switched them over to flowering mode yet.

Growing Cannabis takes time, patience, and genuine care for your plants. If you don't care enough to not use the right things for growing, you'll end up with shitty weed, or even worse, no weed.


I hope you read this, and take what i've said into account.

We're here to help you, inform you, and overall spread the knowledge and methods we know so that everyone can be capable of growing their own cannabis plants.
Dude I hate to be an ass but, you really need to get some knoweldge before you try to give it out....you DO NOT have to put your plants in flower to see the sex...it will grow stigmas (pistils..lil hairs) from the upper most nodes first, this is a sign of maturaty and signs of a female...if you get little sacs hanging from a small stem those are pollen sacs and signs of a male (either remove or seperate to take pollen).............man you're trying to give advice and you clearly have none to give, so stop....
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
are random bag seeds gonna produce shitty weed? cause i dont even want to invest but i might not too sure yet but i wanna get cheap soil since they are reg seeds
No a random bag seed can, and has produced some good bud...because when you get a female you grow it without a male, or without being germinated, so therefore it has put it's energy into making THC and CBNs instead of using it's energy to producing seeds...
they are about two and a half weeks old now wondering if its even worth the electricity since its mersh
Yes it's worth it...get some MG (Miracle Grow) potting soil, $7 to $8 bucks, and some MG perlite $4 to $5 bucks, and some MG Houseplant food $3 to $4 bucks and all at walmart....DO NOT listen to the MG haters, this IS a good viable product AND IT'S CHEAP...mix your new soil with the perlite 60% soil and 40% perlite....transplant those lil ones into it...this is your "learning run" man so pay attention to everything you do and make notes if you have to...DO NOT water them unless they're dry and the pots feel lite...DO NOT feed them until the bottom most leaves "start" to turn yellow....and get some 23 watt to 42 watt CFLS in the 6500k range (this "6500k" will be labeled on the box) and put those lights about 2 to 3 inches over and on the sides of the plant...and if you do this I gaurantee those plants will not only live but make some bud for you to smoke, and will be a GREAT learning experience for you...

These are some pics of my very first grow using NOTHING but MG products that I suggested you use...
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This is what they looked like before Bakatare666 took me under his wing and suggested the same thing for me...and someone was telling me to "chop" them down..
006.jpg................so do yourself a favor AND DON'T GIVE UP ON THEM BABIES...they will grow and you will have learned a whole lot from them...like what not to do...lol..good luck and let me know if you would like some REAL help and I will help all I can buddy...that's what we're here for...to help each other with positive attitudes and REAL experience...
 

ShaoilinWizard

New Member

  • how many gallons should the buckets be and how many plants and watts for that size box? much appreciated and yeah hes hating cause he seen my plants that had high ph my others are stable i just don't feel like uploading more​




 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
Well I go from a solo cup to a 1 gal pot and then into a 3 gal pot for the final phase, but it's preference more than anything...some ppl start and finish in 3 gal or 5 gal...I do it my way cause they show growth in each phase and it gives the roots a chance to catch up...good luck and keep us posted buddy...
 

Dcheald

Well-Known Member
good luck, not always easy on the 1st attempt, but as long as you put the effort in, you'll be ready for your auto's and will have a rough idea of what and not to do
 

Indoor Sun King

Well-Known Member
All Autos are feminized...they dont even have a Veg stage of the grow, it goes from Seed > Sprout > FLOWERING.

Auto's take about 80-90 days from seed to harvest.
All autos are NOT feminized....you most certainly can have an auto that is male

Seed, sprout, flowering? ....you make it sound like it starts to flower as a sprout......auto's do veg, typically for about 4 to 5 weeks before showing preflowers or male pods

wow 80 to 90 days from seed to harvest...seems rather quick to me....mine preflowered at the 5th week then another 3+ months to complete flowering.

Sorry if this is coming off as harsh to ya homie, just trying to make sure you don't sent rookies down the wrong garden path with your erroneous knowledge
 
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