itsraininbuds
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yea im at 1/2 strength with that shit. good?
HELP!! ph problem???
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itsraininbuds
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SativaMe@420
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In my limited knowledge I'd have to agree with sticky, it does look like heat stress, I remember in one of Jorge Cervantes's DVD's he pointed out that you can tell when a plant is heat stressed when the very edges of the leaves are curling, you can clearly see this in pic #4 (Above), heat can absolutely slow growth especially when there not getting enough co2, the plant seems to be healthy otherwise, doesn't look like over/under watering to me but again, I'm no expert.
bigbambino
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It looks like a good pheno, squatty big leafed indica and from a seed. There is obviously something wrong going on. Judging by the ripples in the inside of the leaves I'd say it's over watered. It looks like the soil was wet for a really long time (when you transplanted?) and you got pissed and stabbed the fuck out of that bag with trimming sissers.
Could also be heat, that'll also cause wilting.
Mother it, I wouldn't recommend budding that thing
Edit: Don't use bags your only wasting money on electricity, they'll work but i mean for 5 bucks more you can get SmartBags... (Fold down the sides at least) (top it next time)
Could also be heat, that'll also cause wilting.
Mother it, I wouldn't recommend budding that thing
Edit: Don't use bags your only wasting money on electricity, they'll work but i mean for 5 bucks more you can get SmartBags... (Fold down the sides at least) (top it next time)
itsraininbuds
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right on, good advice. i did stab the bag because i just got done watching the air pots video on youtube haha!
itsraininbuds
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well thanks for the feed back man. i guess ill try to get the heat down and wait to see if she can recover.
bigbambino
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I've never used them, they're interesting though! I used 10 gal Smart Pots, I'm open to experimenting with 1 or 2 if I still grew.
Next time you transplant only put a little water right where you're transplanting, no point soaking the entire pot, there's not enough roots to actually take advantage of the water, it'll just want to chill there and not look for new water. Try to nurse it for a water or two by giving it a little right on top and a little on the sides of the pot. You want the roots to grow! Which also could be causing the weird branching.
The plant will not grow wider than it's roots in soil, from my experience. I'm sure people will give me shit for this statement however.
I started in little plastic bags, 1 gallon's. Then I moved to 10 gallon smarts. Give it Voodoo when you transplant with normal water.
itsraininbuds
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good advice. that does make sense. thanks bro! ill go easy for a bit
itsraininbuds
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you think clones would be alright from this?
I Second this. reason being, same problem, I know I overwatered, I just needed to get some nute's in there!
It's both. It's overwatered AND it's heat stressed. The leaf edges and almost "shriveling" look come from heat stress. If you're getting temps of 86 degrees and up it will slow growth, at least indoors and according to every book I've read on the subject. Outdoors is different, they seem to like the heat as long as you keep them watered, I'm not sure why it's so different indoors, but it is. The leaf tips curling under could definitely be from over watering, but it could also be lockout. You've GOT to know your PH levels, EVERY TIME you water or feed. If you add nutes, PH the water after you've added them all, then water. Also, composting teas, boogie brew and the like, are GREAT for helping you get your garden's ph levels back in balance, you'll save a grip on nutes as you'll use half and the plants just love that shit. My water here is so bad, comes out of my tap at 8.7-8.5, seriously alkaline, and if I was to just water with it, I'd be poisoning these plants. As is, I run it through a filter and into a 30 gallon res at least a day or two before watering. I let it sit out so any residual chlorine can dissipate and ALWAYS balance the ph right before I water or feed. I'll water a few plants and let the runoff from them collect into one saucer and then I'll test that as well. I usually shoot for a runoff ph of 6.1-6.3 and depending on what my last reading was, is pretty easy to buffer by raising or lowering the ph of the next feeding. It won't matter how much or how perfect you measure your nutrient content, if the PH is out of range and the plants can't take them up, and the further you are out of that ph range, the more problematic your grow will become. Blue labs makes a great pen, and I've used a couple, it's the best one I've used. Good luck with your grow!
Also, I noticed you've got a box fan next to the plant. You don't want to have the fan just blowing on the plant. I think doing so could be some of the problem with the leaf stress, something that oscillates is much better.
Also, I noticed you've got a box fan next to the plant. You don't want to have the fan just blowing on the plant. I think doing so could be some of the problem with the leaf stress, something that oscillates is much better.
herballuvmonkey
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i agree with 2 tigers heat stress, i cant speak on the overwatering cuz ive always done dwc so ive never seen overwater type of stress. You may be a tad out of bounds on ph but believe me they would be a lot more orange if ur ph is way out of whack. mostly because u would be a nutrient deficient. there is a soil ph meter for around 15 bucks that most hydro stores carry. they are near the light meters a water meters for soil based grows. get one monitor it daily. your temps really arent bad. 78 may be optimum but i keep fine at 84 with about 50-55% humidity and several oscillating fans and have no problem with heat stress. rather check how close ur lights are. those 100w cfls give off quite a bit of heat. when ur plants start curling in or turning away they are trying to protect themselves so check ur distance.
