help on autoflower vs photoperiod dependent

are some strains developed to be one or the other, or can a strain come in each?

i was given some seeds from an Rx source, Dosido Cookies and Pineapple Punch. are these definitely auto, or could they be photo?

we are at 54 days, so just under 8 weeks from sprouting, exactly 8 weeks from sowing. The PP are sativa dominant and the taller plants, the one in the ground is 37" and the one in the pot is 30" (i topped them differently - one above 5th node, the other FIMMED at about the same point but didnt like it so i topped above 7th node), but i do have very good rich organic soil, whereas in the pot is a mix of bulk leaf-mold compost (not from a store), store bought garden soil, and my own compost.

so are those little buds i see trying to form, so if autoflowering they will be ready to harvest in 2-3 weeks? would they even show at this age if photoperiod?

Preflowers but I have to ask how long has it been outdoors since spring has just begun here?

Even if these are autoflowers, you're still looking at several weeks before harvest, not 2-3.

PersonaBotanica said:

Even if these are autoflowers, you're still looking at several weeks before harvest, not 2-3.

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Several months not weeks.

they have been outside in pots since about 2 weeks old or less, 4" then to 8" once i was able to sex them. i am in southeast Texas so it has not been freezing since mid Feb when we had the iceapocolype.

i thought i read that autoflowering plants could be harvested at 10-12 weeks, but likely reading about another strain.

28.35 said "several months" - heck, thats what i would expect anyway if not auto, right?

surfgeo said:

they have been outside in pots since about 2 weeks old or less, 4" then to 8" once i was able to sex them. i am in southeast Texas so it has not been freezing since mid Feb when we had the iceapocolype.

i thought i read that autoflowering plants could be harvested at 10-12 weeks, but likely reading about another strain.

28.35 said "several months" - heck, thats what i would expect anyway if not auto, right?

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Autoflowers don't flower any quicker than photoperiods.

The only difference between an autoflower and photoperiod is that autoflowers will go into flower based on genetics. Photoperiods require a change in light schedule to start flowering.

twentyeight.threefive said:

Autoflowers don't flower any quicker than photoperiods.

The only difference between an autoflower and photoperiod is that autoflowers will go into flower based on genetics. Photoperiods require a change in light schedule to start flowering.

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please help me then, what am i missing?? these sites say 7-11 weeks:

surfgeo said:

please help me then, what am i missing?? these sites say 7-11 weeks:

The Ultimate Guide to Growing Autoflowering Cannabis: A Comprehensive Step-by-Step Guide | Fast Buds

IntroductionWelcome to the ultimate guide for growing autoflowering cannabis. This comprehensive step-by-step guide will provide you with all the information

2fast4buds.com

Learn How To Grow Autoflowers: Week-By-Week Guide - RQS Blog

Autoflowering cannabis strains grow fast, remain compact, and offer great results. Use this guide to learn how to cultivate them week by week!

www.royalqueenseeds.com

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They lie

surfgeo said:

please help me then, what am i missing?? these sites say 7-11 weeks:

The Ultimate Guide to Growing Autoflowering Cannabis: A Comprehensive Step-by-Step Guide | Fast Buds

IntroductionWelcome to the ultimate guide for growing autoflowering cannabis. This comprehensive step-by-step guide will provide you with all the information

2fast4buds.com

Learn How To Grow Autoflowers: Week-By-Week Guide - RQS Blog

Autoflowering cannabis strains grow fast, remain compact, and offer great results. Use this guide to learn how to cultivate them week by week!

www.royalqueenseeds.com

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Poorly written article.

Says don't transplant autos. I transplant all my plants. It promotes proper and healthy root growth.

The example plant is only shown to week 8 and then they inserted photos of other plants. That's pretty odd if you ask me.

States flowering starts week 6 and is ready to harvest at week 11. That's only 6 weeks. 8 weeks of flowering is pretty much a minimum for any plant. It's beyond rare for something to finish in 7 weeks.

Each plant is different. They don't all start flowering at week 6 and most definitely don't all finish at week 11.

Second article says "Their hardy genetics and forgiving nature also make them easier to grow and therefore more beginner-friendly."

This is the shit that make beginners think it's true. Autoflowers are awful for beginners to start on. Any mistakes made in veg will lead to reduced yields. New growers finish their plant and harvest 10 grams and then blame the autoflower.

The first article calls autoflowers "maintenance free". Just awful stuff laced in both those articles.

excellent, thanks. so what i should look for is maybe a harvest around August, but at least not as late as October when the light cycle rotates... ?
assuming all goes well of course, i have several months of upper 90's humid weather to make it through. planning on neem, spinosad, and aspirin water to help them survive - and some shade cloth as well......

surfgeo said:

please help me then, what am i missing?? these sites say 7-11 weeks:

The Ultimate Guide to Growing Autoflowering Cannabis: A Comprehensive Step-by-Step Guide | Fast Buds

IntroductionWelcome to the ultimate guide for growing autoflowering cannabis. This comprehensive step-by-step guide will provide you with all the information

2fast4buds.com

Learn How To Grow Autoflowers: Week-By-Week Guide - RQS Blog

Autoflowering cannabis strains grow fast, remain compact, and offer great results. Use this guide to learn how to cultivate them week by week!

www.royalqueenseeds.com

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They say whatever they can to get you to buy their seeds. Since most people are just looking for a quick harvest rather than quality they market their plants as finishing sooner than they actually do. If you had to decide between something that says 7-11 weeks or something that says 9-12 weeks which one would you have bought?

Some of us know that those times are a crapshoot and if harvested in the stated timeframes you'll be harvesting early. Sometimes by several weeks or longer.

You need to realize that these guys are in business to sell seeds and will claim anything to sell them. It's how they pay the bills.

Scrutinize more.

Things are very vague and misleading for reasons. To sell product.
Pics aren't usually of finished plants.
Times from seed to harvest are usually far from correct. "Oh these only take 7 weeks? Awesome!" Add to cart. Click!
Times that are honest come from an environment that the average home grower likely doesn't have.
Some of the times given seem to work out to be exactly the point when the buds are at their most photogenic for the insta's n whatnot's but still need 2-3 weeks. Coincidence?

Nice plants!

Creature1969 said:

Scrutinize more.

Things are very vague and misleading for reasons. To sell product.
Pics aren't usually of finished plants.
Times from seed to harvest are usually far from correct. "Oh these only take 7 weeks? Awesome!" Add to cart. Click!
Times that are honest come from an environment that the average home grower likely doesn't have.
Some of the times given seem to work out to be exactly the point when the buds are at their most photogenic for the insta's n whatnot's but still need 2-3 weeks. Coincidence?

Nice plants!

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well thanks, i am happy with the plants so far - its my first grow, but i have really good soil from years of veggie gardening and making my own compost from horse manure, kitchen scraps, grass cuttings, and shrimp/fish scraps.

any guess as to how tall each will grow? right now the PP is 37" and the DC is 12" at 8 weeks. i am struggling to keep from overfeeding, it is quite an urge...

here's my set up - you can see the taller pineapple punch on the right, the shorter dosido cookies indica dominant is to the right of it, obscured by the eggplants in the right foreground. pic is facing south, the prevailing wind will be 99% from that direction, so that neighbor will never smell them and he is never out anyway, and cant see them because of the tomatoes on the trellises. the other neighbor fence is is 70' behind me and they are very cool, good friends, viet namese immigrants and he is never around the fence anyway. on the other side of the fence at right is a deep ditch then a road - no sidewalk and no room to walk along the fence. that small bare patch you see next to it just had potatoes harvested and will soon be a 7' trellis covered with cantaloupe vines. if i had neighbors behind me on that side i would never do this.

so i feel pretty safe....