help me this monster is killing me
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stoned-monkey
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looks like a little caterpillar in the second pic. are there caterpillars all over you plant? if so spinosad, maybe neem. don't know if that is the whole problem or just part.
havestmoon
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In 3-4 colas I see more fan leaves and some sugar leaves are affected 
Dr. Who
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First off. The plant wasn't stable when it was flipped.
You have to have at least 5 leaf sets to figure it's stable. You have a shit ton of 3's. It's tried to get there but, has not.
So it's stressed. Stressed plants attract bugs.
I'm not a fan of Neem! Far nastier then people think.
I might be inclined to use Cpt. Jacks on it.
Good luck
You have to have at least 5 leaf sets to figure it's stable. You have a shit ton of 3's. It's tried to get there but, has not.
So it's stressed. Stressed plants attract bugs.
I'm not a fan of Neem! Far nastier then people think.
I might be inclined to use Cpt. Jacks on it.
Good luck
Indacouch
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First off. The plant wasn't stable when it was flipped.
You have to have at least 5 leaf sets to figure it's stable. You have a shit ton of 3's. It's tried to get there but, has not.
So it's stressed. Stressed plants attract bugs.
I'm not a fan of Neem! Far nastier then people think.
I might be inclined to use Cpt. Jacks on it.
Good luck
Beat me to it Doc .....love the Captain Jacks ...absolutely awesome product. Exactly what I was guna suggest ..lol
Dr. Who
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whitebb2727
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Use the captain jacks.
Indacouch
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Man, I'm all about prevention Dr. I finally got that through my thick skull after years of battling pests after they showed up .....ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure....I use a Neem,azamax mix during veg for prevention spraying...but I've been hearing some pretty concerning things about Neem lately.....not to mention I'm a bee keeper as well ....and that neem spray is no good ....I hate seeing lady bugs and Bees dead ....Captain Jacks may do the same thing ....however I notice sick/dead Bees after a Neem mist ...I haven't noticed with the dead bug though....so I did some testing using Captains Dead Bug during veg Into very early flower ....worked nice ....girls are all nice and clean and bug free ....cheaper than Azamax as well .....the only concern I have not using Neem is the PM prevention ....any ideas of what I could add?
Roger A. Shrubber
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neem oil makes me break out in hives. i'll use it on plants outdoors but i stay away from it in the house. before a plant flowers i'll use alternating sprayings of pyrethin and spinosad, but after one starts to flower, just spinosad. make sure you use it properly, have to use it at least three times in a row, 3-4 days apart to get any new hatching eggs
if you spray spinosad outside, do it late in the day when the bees have gone back to the hive, as long as it has time to dry, it should be safe for bees
if you spray spinosad outside, do it late in the day when the bees have gone back to the hive, as long as it has time to dry, it should be safe for bees
Indacouch
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Ya I always spray late evening ...TY
Dr. Who
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greg nr
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That was the first thing I noticed. Definitely treat the bugs, but stop over watering.
SchmoeJoe
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I wouldn't spray a budded out plant with any kind of neem oil. Spinosad could work. I've used Thuricide from Bonide on plant a late into flowering outdoors to deal with caterpillars without a problem but neem is a thick and oily substance that I don't even want to imagine smoking.
havestmoon
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I water it with good gaps,I wait until the surface of soil is dried why overwater
The curled sagging leaves are signs of over watering. If it gets any worse the whole plant will shut down and die.
SchmoeJoe
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Go by water weight of the pot. Make,sure that when you do water it's a little bit at a time until run off to make sure it's thoroughly saturated and then tilt/lift The pot to get an idea of what it weighs. Check the weight daily. You'll get an idea of how light it will get before it needs to be watered and you'll be surprised.
The whole idea of checking the surface by sticking your finger in it is flawed and won't be consistent, especially from differing pot sizes.
SchmoeJoe
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First off. The plant wasn't stable when it was flipped.
You have to have at least 5 leaf sets to figure it's stable. You have a shit ton of 3's. It's tried to get there but, has not.
So it's stressed. Stressed plants attract bugs.
I'm not a fan of Neem! Far nastier then people think.
I might be inclined to use Cpt. Jacks on it.
Good luck
I see plenty of leaves with the typical five blades. The only leaves I see with fewer blades are the ones in the buds where they normally reduce the number of blades. There's no indication from the leaves that the plant was recovering from stress.