HELP!!!! --- Looking for an adjustable light stand. Lil' help?

Gr8ness

Gr8ness

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Hey guys,

My grow box/shed is quite small. Here are the dimensions :

- Height = 6' or 72"
- Width = 3' 8" or 44"
- Length (from front door of the box/shed to the back of the box/shed) = 5' 8" or 68"

I'm looking for an ADJUSTABLE light stand (one that will fit within my working dimensions) that can support 100 Lbs. Unfortunately, an extensive internet search has yielded no results. So I figured I'd check with my brethren to see if they could help me. Now, I have considered a wooden (2x4) stand; one that I would make myself, but I'm not too crazy about using wood because I question the strength/stability of the joints.

I did see a really good stand in a YouTube video, but couldn't find that particular stand for sale. Please watch that video and tell me if you know where I could find out more details on it (dimensions/price/etc). Here's the link to video :

So...can anybody help me? :)
 
2 answers i can think of

1 get a tubing system ........like gorrllia tents their system is able to hold up too 300 lbs

2 u build something into the area
i am not sure what u want if it is just moving it up and down then why not get a few eye bolts sink it into the ceiling and use a rope rachet system to move up and down
 
But what about the feet/base of these systems? I don't have that much space so I want something with a skinny/narrow base so I won't have too many problems fitting planters in there.


justugh said:
2 answers i can think of

1 get a tubing system ........like gorrllia tents their system is able to hold up too 300 lbs

2 u build something into the area
i am not sure what u want if it is just moving it up and down then why not get a few eye bolts sink it into the ceiling and use a rope rachet system to move up and down
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Gr8ness said:
But what about the feet/base of these systems? I don't have that much space so I want something with a skinny/narrow base so I won't have too many problems fitting planters in there.
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my answer is well simple

build a simple floor
2x4s
plywood
drill
a bit just little larger then the pipes
sawl to cut it to fit

u know what u have ...............cut the plywood to that then u need to think about where u want the poles .......from there u know where u need to lay a 2x4 on it side(so only 2 inchs of space used 1 1/2 for 2x4 and 1/2 inch for the plywood).............make sure u lay out extra 2x4s on the play wood so u walk on it not cracking or deforming..............take it and put it in and lay the plywood up 2x4 down move your hanging system to where u want it then mark drill 1 inch in and u now have a stable base for the tubing plus the plants are off the floor (if too cold or too hot)
 
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to drill one inch is simple

take the drill bit and tape measure..........place the tip at the end go down one inch (u can use tape or a sharpy marker) mark it and when u drill push down to that point stop and back out (u still have 1 inch before u hit the ground/real floor so will not mess up anything)
 
I like the idea Justugh is suggesting, but HPS systems are so cheap, and for $100-$150 you can get another light? and alternate them?
 
vostok said:
I like the idea Justugh is suggesting, but HPS systems are so cheap, and for $100-$150 you can get another light? and alternate them?
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Yes but the lighting is not the problem. I've got the lighting....the problem is the stand. Unless I've misunderstood what you meant.
 
Vostok .......he is looking for the frame work of a tent ......so can hang things move things all that ..........he is not trying to eyebolt into the wood and all

Gr8ness ...........he talking use a 2nd light becuase he thinks u mean to use a light mover

if u build that floor thing u can use any pipe u want
trick i know
if u get a 3/4 pipe get a 1/4 inch pipe to put inside the 3/4 pipe and then put a wooden dowel rods /or steal into the 1/4 ............this will ensure u can hang what u want ..........this is a trick they do with steel bars in prisons and jails

then u can just up the plumbing fittings for the joints and angles ...........u do not need to seal them asl much as ensure the pressed in together tight
 
justugh said:
2 answers i can think of

1 get a tubing system ........like gorrllia tents their system is able to hold up too 300 lbs

2 u build something into the area
i am not sure what u want if it is just moving it up and down then why not get a few eye bolts sink it into the ceiling and use a rope rachet system to move up and down
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The tubing system should work fine, but I don't want to buy a complete tent kit (simply because I don't need the whole thing. Not to mention it's expensive). Your tube idea got me to thinking of using copper pipes. They have elbows which I could face downwards to be the feet. I could also customize the length by simply cutting the pipe. :)

The eye bolts in the ceiling won't work because my grow tent/shed is actually a composite shed. The roof/ceiling is not strong enough IMO to support the lights; it's a light material and I don't want to drill through the ceiling of the shed because light would then seep in/out.

Could you recommend a tubing sytem (provide links) where it would fit my dimensions? I've been searching the net but can't find a tubing system that will fit.
 
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Gr8ness said:
The tubing system should work fine, but I don't want to buy a complete tent kit (simply because I don't need the whole thing. Not to mention it's expensive). Your tube idea got me to thinking of using copper pipes. They have elbows which I could face downwards to be the feet. I could also customize the length by simply cutting the pipe. :)

The eye bolts in the ceiling won't work because my grow tent/shed is actually a composite shed. The roof/ceiling is not strong enough IMO to support the lights; it's a light material and I don't want to drill through the ceiling of the shed because light would then seep in/out.

Could you recommend a tubing sytem (provide links) where it would fit my dimensions? I've been searching the net but can't find a tubing system that will fit.
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this is rough
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Formufit...h-40-PVC-Pipe-in-Black-P034FGP-BK-5/205171549
that is 3/4 inch pipe 5 foot sections

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Formufit...PVC-3-Way-Elbow-in-White-F0343WE-WH/205165173
that would be the coner fitting ...............if u look u can see a bunch of other connectors in a cross shape....in a T shape so u can make any design u want for cross bars anything like that


or if u want u can get this
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-1-in-x-10-ft-Galvanized-Steel-Pipe-565-1200HC/100576427

cut it to lenght and then do the same thing with the 1 inch metal fittings and that floor i told u (this cost more little harder work but it should hold 2 of me in weight and i am about 240lbs )

just rem to account for the fittings in your design (do it outside the area and mearsure make sure is right take apart redo for final part )
if u think ahead u can lay a crossbar on both sides of it and make a scrog netting .......just use a T connection in the poles going up and u have the crossbar it will also add str to the design
 
justugh said:
this is rough
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Formufit...h-40-PVC-Pipe-in-Black-P034FGP-BK-5/205171549
that is 3/4 inch pipe 5 foot sections

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Formufit...PVC-3-Way-Elbow-in-White-F0343WE-WH/205165173
that would be the coner fitting ...............if u look u can see a bunch of other connectors in a cross shape....in a T shape so u can make any design u want for cross bars anything like that


or if u want u can get this
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-1-in-x-10-ft-Galvanized-Steel-Pipe-565-1200HC/100576427

cut it to lenght and then do the same thing with the 1 inch metal fittings and that floor i told u (this cost more little harder work but it should hold 2 of me in weight and i am about 240lbs )

just rem to account for the fittings in your design (do it outside the area and mearsure make sure is right take apart redo for final part )
if u think ahead u can lay a crossbar on both sides of it and make a scrog netting .......just use a T connection in the poles going up and u have the crossbar it will also add str to the design
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Well, your posts have helped me to figure out which way I'm going to proceed. I'm going to go with the galvanized pipe.
I don't think I'll go with the floor idea though; too much work. This project has taken wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long for me to
complete. If you look at my posts (history) you'll see I've been "planning" this for a few years. But something always came up.

Now I'm looking to just do it.

This is what I'm aiming for, but in a galvanized pipe layout. http://4hydroponics.com/images/products/sunleavesStand.jpg
I would've loved to have purchased that but it's not adjustable width wise, so...here we are.

Anyhoo, I'll keep you posted (once it's done).
 
Gr8ness said:
Well, your posts have helped me to figure out which way I'm going to proceed. I'm going to go with the galvanized pipe.
I don't think I'll go with the floor idea though; too much work. This project has taken wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to long for me to
complete. If you look at my posts (history) you'll see I've been "planning" this for a few years. But something always came up.

Now I'm looking to just do it.

This is what I'm aiming for, but in a galvanized pipe layout. http://4hydroponics.com/images/products/sunleavesStand.jpg
I would've loved to have purchased that but it's not adjustable width wise, so...here we are.

Anyhoo, I'll keep you posted (once it's done).
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well the floor is your stablizer ...........other wise u will need to lay pipe on the floor to do the same thing ..........with out it if the pressure changes in any direction the pipe could slip and the whole thing gets messed up plus your plants

that floor i told u will cost u about 50 bucks ..........the pipes alot more u sawl 20 bucks for 10 foot 2 of those atleast plus the fittings

the design u linked is for a T5 light .............u can find them anywhere just look for T5 light stand but it is not ment for a hid light or anything other then a simple LED or T5


if u have all the tools and stuff together u could do this alone in less then 4 hours with a buddy hour and half

it is really simple stuff just measure cut double check and nail down slip in push tight
 
justugh said:
well the floor is your stablizer ...........other wise u will need to lay pipe on the floor to do the same thing ..........with out it if the pressure changes in any direction the pipe could slip and the whole thing gets messed up plus your plants

that floor i told u will cost u about 50 bucks ..........the pipes alot more u sawl 20 bucks for 10 foot 2 of those atleast plus the fittings

the design u linked is for a T5 light .............u can find them anywhere just look for T5 light stand but it is not ment for a hid light or anything other then a simple LED or T5


if u have all the tools and stuff together u could do this alone in less then 4 hours with a buddy hour and half

it is really simple stuff just measure cut double check and nail down slip in push tight
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Well, I certainly don't want to be narrow minded when it comes to this part of my layout as one small goof can be very costly, so....I'll entertain the idea of the floor suggestion. My BIGGEST concern with the flooring idea is that it will take away from my grow space. See, from top to bottom I have 6 feet / 72 inches. But of those 6 feet.....my planters are 2 feet high / 24 inches. That only gives me 4 feet + some inches to grow my plants.

Now the link I sent you of the light stand, that was really just to give you a rough idea.

But the footing of the base, as I imagine it, would be with a 90 degree elbow (facing downwards). Like this : http://www.pvcworkshop.com/LightStand 002.jpg

Do you think it wouldn't be secure using the elbows facing downwards? I kinda figured that would be more than secure.
 
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Gr8ness said:
Well, I certainly don't want to be narrow minded when it comes to this part of my layout as one small goof can be very costly, so....I'll entertain the idea of the floor suggestion. Now the link I sent you of the light stand, that was really just to give you a rough idea.

But the footing of the base, as I imagine it, would be with a 90 degree elbow (facing downwards). Like this : http://www.pvcworkshop.com/LightStand 002.jpg

Do you think it wouldn't be secure using the elbows facing downwards? I kinda figured that would be more than secure.
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no not at all ..............rem a hid light is hot and the fan will make it move when it goes on and off

if u do go pipe u need to frame in like they do with tents ...........the top and bottom has those 4 bars lenght and width to make it a stable frame .......rem u said u wanted to hang 100 lbs ..............if u look at that design u have all the weight is on 4 spots soon or later one of those will fail vs the weight evenly laid out

to work on your idea get a few strawl and make differnet designs put weight on it and watch the reactions
 
justugh said:
no not at all ..............rem a hid light is hot and the fan will make it move when it goes on and off

if u do go pipe u need to frame in like they do with tents ...........the top and bottom has those 4 bars lenght and width to make it a stable frame .......rem u said u wanted to hang 100 lbs ..............if u look at that design u have all the weight is on 4 spots soon or later one of those will fail vs the weight evenly laid out

to work on your idea get a few strawl and make differnet designs put weight on it and watch the reactions
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Ok,

I'll make it into a cage like structure then, like this one : http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/849/703/657/657703849_830.jpg
That way I won't have to sacrifice my grow space of 4 feet & some inches.
charface said:
No chance of mounting a 2x4 to the top of your unit then usi
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usi ????
 
charface said:
Lol.
Sorry bout that.
I mean screw a 2x4
To the cieling as a brace for strength then hang the light.
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Unfortunately, that option is out of the question because my grow area is in a shed-like structure. In order to do what you've suggested, I'd have to drill a hole into the roof of the shed and onto the roof. I do not want to modify the roof/ceiling as I'm worried about light entering into the shed (from outside) and light escaping out of the shed.
 
with that u will be good................but like i said build it up outside and check the size then break down and build in your area
 
justugh said:
with that u will be good................but like i said build it up outside and check the size then break down and build in your area
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Sweet. This is the next component on my project and I just got paid so I'll be heading over to the store to pick up the parts I need. :)
 
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