help leaf tips are dying !

growone

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was that 4.5 ph water? i think straight vinegar is close to that
and 6.0 came out - well that's not bad coming out - but 4.5 going in - that sounds toxic
not sure on the 40 ppm alakaline number - that might be ok
chlorosis has so many causes - it's a very vague symptom
3 days after transplant and not much happening isn't too unusual - transplanting is a shock - a few more days should tell the story
 

born2killspam

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ppm is parts per million.. With typical ppm meters this is actually calculated froma measured resistance, and compared to the equivalent resistance of a NaCl solution at whatever ppm.. (Yep, a ppm meter is basically a really sensitive AC ohm meter)..
Pools confuse things further by separating pH and alkalinity.. pH is the result of the net average number of acidic and basic compounds where as alkalinity is the total concentration of carbonate (a basic compound).. So If you had 1000000 particles of acid, and 1000000 particles of carbonate in there, the pH would be 7.0, but your alkalinity would be 1000000 (these numbers are imaginary BS btw).. And if you had water with no acid and no carbonate, pH would be 7.0 and alkalinity would be 0..
On that note, the more acids/bases at a given pH, generally the more stable it will be in that range.. pH is all about ratio, not so much total numbers.. (On that note, I don't know how strong 40ppm alkalinity is, or if its even real ppm or what).. But it does sound like some kind of alkaline buffer is the culprit.. Do you use phosphoric acid as a pH down?? It is the best because it reacts with carbonates to make new compounds that tie up the whole acid/base thing that will buffer the pH between 6 and 7 rather than higher than that like carbonates alone tend to.. Other things like citric acid will just affect that pH acid/base ratio, not form to stabilizing compounds.. Eventually things should improve doing what you're doing with phosphoric acid, wheras with most other pH downs you'll just be temporaily adjusting the ratio.. If you are using phosphoric acid and things aren't getting better then I'm at a loss..
 

smallclosetgrowr

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phosphoric acid is found where? im as i said up im still using a slightly acidy water from lemon juice , so are u saying that u think the alkalinty in the soil is the culprut? last nite they plant grew another set of leaves but also its big leaves are getting worse at the same time , wtf is happening ! can someone offer my a hand in the chatroom or something ?
 

born2killspam

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Its one of the few things worth buying at the hydro store (Strong H2O2 is also best purcased there if you need that).. They typically sell 10% and 85% solutions.. The only difference is dilution rate.. It lasts a LONG time whatever you buy.. A $5-10 purchase will last decades..
And about the dilution, just use an eye dropper, it will likely only take a drop or two per litre if even that..
 

growone

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phosphoric acid is found where? im as i said up im still using a slightly acidy water from lemon juice , so are u saying that u think the alkalinty in the soil is the culprut? last nite they plant grew another set of leaves but also its big leaves are getting worse at the same time , wtf is happening ! can someone offer my a hand in the chatroom or something ?
the plant is probably pulling nutes from the older growth to give them to the new growth
not unusual if there is nute lockup, which is often caused by ph issues
i think you could let your water ph come up a bit, you probably don't want water lower than 5.5, if that low
 
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