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Kryan

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Hello and thanks for taking the time to read this. I had a small closet grow going while I was getting my grow room ready. The plants all seemed healthy in the small closet except the bottom leaves wanted to go crispy and lose color yellowing and even turning white on one. I moved them into the completed room and after coming home from work the next day they were all drooping bad. 4 plants are soil and 4 are in a DWC unit I made. Its using GH floragrow and the Ph is always monitored. Each 4 plants have their own cfl light unit I built producing 12000 lumens. The lights are side by side so most of the escaping light shines on the neighboring plants. The temp is 70-75 not over 80 ever at canopy. The humidity is 35-50%. I am using MG 6 month potting soil and water every 2-3 days when soil is completely dry. I am admittedly new to this and any help is alleviated. I will post pics after work. I gave the soil ones a mini 1/2 dose splash of cactus food to increase potassium and potash
 

Kryan

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Forgot to include that I am using daylights bulbs, and the closet I moved them from was 95+ constantly at the canopy and the plants were fine with that. I checked my tap its 7 Ph awatering it sit overnight before watering. The soil was also tested too its roughly showing a hair under 7. I had a plastic drop that I removed yesterday too incase it was upsetting the plants.
 

Kryan

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Also the lil meter I use to check soil Ph does fertility and says the soil is a little low, that should be a good thing though I would think?
 

hotrodharley

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First forget any little meter that says anything about nutrition. And any little probe for soil pH is worthless. Do not water by time but by need. Pick the containers up when you transplant and feel the weight. Water the container well and pick it up again. From then on pick it up and feel - has it lightened a bit? It might need water. Lightened a lot? It needs water? Heavy? Forget it.

You don't say what your PPM of your DWC units. Or the pH of them.

Keep any CFL right on top of the plant and you say "daylight" - for vegging the friendly temp is 6500K. For flowering it is 2700K. A combination of the 2 works well also with a 3:1 ratio (3 6500K and 1 2700K to veg and reverse for flowering).

You will not get yield worth a damn with CFL and you will soon need much more light over the DWC if you don't screw them up. Daily checks of pH and PPM on the DWC until you actually get the feel for what is going on.
 

Kryan

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I am using 16 23 watt 6500k daylight cfl bulbs now, in the closet they were all doing well with exactly 1/2 that amount of light ( again all 6500k daylights). I have the lights roughly 2-5 inches away. I am vegging 24/0 to sustain room temp. I believe my Ph is kept at 6 but I have to check my bottle I know I use a drop kit to test and I do every couple days tops it always goes a lil more alkaline and I add Ph down till its perfect. The soil bound plants I only water when the soil is dry. I painted the room two days prior but it was bone dry in there and use a bug barrier spray a day before it ofcourse also was bone dry and was suited for spraying along bushes perkmiters outside or inside and is pet safe when dry.
 

*BUDS

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Get some pics up could be relocation stress, do you have adequate airflow in there?
 

Kryan

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The closet was a very small 2 foot tall cubbyhole and had the door shut with no fan. They were all perky and happy. The new room is 7 foot tall and about 8 by 10 feet wide. It has no fan and is fairly airtight but I left an almost 2 inch gap upder the door. I am having a hard time finding a small fan and they are still only 3-4 inches tall or so
 

Kryan

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The smallest of the plants is shoeing a purple color taking over in the white leaves. The one biggest plant I gave a drink of cactus food high in potassium and potash seems to be the healthiest color and its been stunted for about 5 days seems to be less droopy now ( its the least droopy of them now ) and is working on making another branch set pop out between the original set of bottom leaves.
 

Kryan

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This was yesterday today it's much worse http://s14.directupload.net/images/130115/u2d33k5b.jpg.This is my set up I will answer any questions and help everyone also when I learn more bout caring for these babies. http://s7.directupload.net/images/130115/rjhsrdp5.jpg. here's another pic of them from the side showing curl. These are all from yesterday I will post more today to compare to. http://s14.directupload.net/images/130115/kyd5kl6w.jpg. the lil plant in the red cup I took out of the DWC because I think all the plants in there got root rot and want to see if it will take root in soil. The have been in the DWC for near two weeks no trace of root development here's what they looked like yesterday http://s7.directupload.net/images/130115/ftluqz9y.jpg
 

Kryan

Member
I am posting some pics from a few minutes ago now. I am new to this but I really am adamant about it. I was born on a farm where my parents grew, I am but a young man and they are all deceased now. I feel ironically at peace when tending to the plants even though I have admitedly never so much as cared for a flower in a vase before. Here's the light configuration, I am pretty happy with my design I feel its close enough and is on yo yos so I was hoping to be adjusting daily sigh. http://s7.directupload.net/images/130115/dxpu3ilm.jpg. here's a pic under my dwc lid to show no roots growing barely and tan brown color. Cups sit with just a 1/8 of an inch water touching them at bottom. Two air pumps even. http://s1.directupload.net/images/130115/cwrwpqom.jpg. I sadly also found this lil intruder running on a pot! I have a bug barrier spray, must have already been with the plants? Has lil wings reminds me of a fruit fly? http://s14.directupload.net/images/130115/womp7jxa.jpg. a close up of the littlest worst soil plant started to turn major purple today on leaves that yellowed to white last couple weeks. http://s7.directupload.net/images/130115/hv4tf4jq.jpg. I used mg seed starter for all the soil plants then transplanted to mg 6 month. Here's the biggest plant which was growing super fast up till this point! Small nodes are trying to form but nothing substantial no height. It was in a cup of seed starter till it got a good ammount of visible roots all around they were nice n white. http://s1.directupload.net/images/130115/b88mt78w.jpg
 

HappyMan420

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They seem too wet in the soil. Let them dry out. Wait until they begin to wilt before watering them again. Also, you need plenty of air movement. Also, Mr. Ganja, look up a book by SeeMoreBuds called "Growing 8 ounces for less than $100" Plenty of yield can come from CFL's. My last grow was with CFL's and I had 24g Buds come out. That was one plant
 

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keep it real.

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i think your plants are a little wet do you have holes in your pots? cfl are great lights and should never be talked about badly they DO require more work and you MUST utilizes the light they put out! you should start to tie these girls down or (LST) to get an even canopy so your entire plant gets no less then 3 inches away from the cfl lighting.
 
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