Help guys Newborn problem

trezi13

Active Member
Hey everyone, this is my first post here at Rollitup and i wanna say i have been coming here for reffference alot in the last few months. I have been growing a single baby bagseed for a few weeks that a friend had started growin and he was murdering it so i had to take it from him and she has shown unbelievable progress since then (about a month ago). But thats just a little about me and my grow.

The reason i made this thread is because recently i got a bagseed from some extremely good bud i got from one of my guys he called "Gold Rush" havent seen anything about this strain anywhere but i dont care about names much myself its all about the smoke to me.

I have her growing under 4 27w cfls and she had been doing great until i woke up from a nap tonight. i have no idea what could be happening cause she has never done anything like this before nor did the one i am growing for my buddy.

and as soon as i figure out how to post a pic ill have it up =P guess i should have thought of that b4 i typed all that lol brb.
 

trezi13

Active Member
How often are you watering them?
Well i usualy wait until the rockwool cube feels almost weightless as you can see in some of the pics the dirt is completly dry and then i watered her when i woke up and saw her like that she is looking even worse now i just got home and ill post picks in a few minutes thanks for helping =)
 

DownOnWax

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If you happened to let the rockwool or soil get a little too dry before you water them then they can weep like that.

Sometimes it can take up to 8 or so hours before they perk up again.
 

trezi13

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Well i got some bad news, i just got home its been roughly 13 hours since my post anywhere between 15-18 hours after i believe she might have started this period and she is doing worst then when i first noticed. One of her leaves is looking a little wavy and now the seed leaves(sry i dont know the term) but the 2 round leaves other then the 2 first true leaves that come in are yellowing and one has now started turning black at the tip.

She has also started leaning witch for temporary fix i turned her 180% so she would start leaning back and maybe straighten out a bit. Like i said this is really my first time doing this so im not familiar with all the deficiencies and cant seem to find out what this could be since my other girl just grew fine with 0 problems once she was in my hands.
 

trezi13

Active Member
Nice post bro, i am growing her in a rock wool cube filled with Hyponex Potting Soil i think what might be happening is the roots might be having trouble penetrating the rockwool but im no expert so i have no idea.

SOIL:

How long has this problem been going on? about 24 hours
What STRAIN are you growing? unknown bagseed
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? 1 week 3 days
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? since germination was done.
How Tall are the plants? 2 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? seedling
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) single plant
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) right now she is just in the rockwool cube i was going to plant it once the roots began to show.
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) Im not too sure the bag does not list anything I had asked the lady for something without nutrients like a basic potting soil and she pointed me to this.
What Nutrient's are you using? none for now using only distilled water.
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? water her once the rockwool cube is weightless and soil looks dry.
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? not sure how to check this.
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? Electronic soil tester
How often are you watering? its coming out to about every 2 days maybe 2 and a half cause the CFLs dry up the cube pretty fast.
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? never
What size bulb are you using? 4 26w Daylight CFLs
What is the distance to the canopy? My veg box is about 2 feet tall i have the seedling about 3 inches from the lights.
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)35-45%
What is the canopy temperature? 78%
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) Ranges anywhere from 69-85 degrees at the coldest and warmest. 22 hour light period usualy an avarage of 75F
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) There is one pretty strong intake fan and a weaker exhaust airflow is good.
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? My intake fan shuts off with the light everyday for 2 hours and the exhaust fan stays on 24 hours.
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? No i heard that causes stress they are blowing at the pot i have the cube sitting on without shaking the seedling much at all.
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? only for maybe a couples of hours after watering but they dry up pretty soon.
Is your water HARD or SOFT? how do i tell this? i dont know what the question is asking, i use Distilled water only that i buy at walmart in gallon jugs.
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Distilled.
Are you using water from a water softener? ? lol? again i dont understand what thats asking.
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? no
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? no.
Are plant's infected with pest's? no.

So that about how my grow is working, im always open to pointers guys like i said im pretty new to this. Her leaves are still wilted the seed leaves or rond leaves whatever you want to call them the non true leave have turned yellow and on has blackend at the tip. Her stem also feels almost a little crunchy twig like. The true leaves are really wavy instead of being nice and smooth like before that came after the wilting and the yellowing, but about the same time i noticed her black tip.
 

trezi13

Active Member
Hmm and here we go again thank you so much for that post cause had i not looked through the entire thing i would have completly missed that my other plant has a slight Zinc deficiency is there anything i could maybe find at home to take care of this and how is it caused ??
 

trezi13

Active Member
at least i know she isnt dead cause she is still growing new leaves thank god. I felt her and her leaves are gettin crispy i raised the lights about an inch afraid they might be frying her and misted her a little.

Here is the other plant that i think might have a Zinc deficiency again sorry for the horrible camera but i cant afford a new one atm.
If you look closely you can see her growing tips are all lighter then the core of the leaf.
 

trezi13

Active Member
What do you guys think about the roots maybe hitting the rockwool and maybe stopping cause the dirt in there is very very soft and the rockwool is not really.
From what she is looking to me is like she might be running out of time, should i try and get her out of their and just get a 3 gallon pot and fill it with the soil or would that just worsen things? I have a little bottle of Thrive Alive B-1 would that be of any help here?

Sorry for all the questions but like i said im kinda new when it comes to do this and one thing i know for sure is that to grow good bud things have to be perfect and right now I am far from there thanks in advanced guys.
 

areyoukind

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you need to read up! that enviroment from the pic looks like the start of your problem! some people are just not green thumbs....you got to really want it and follow the steps! I allways think what it would be like in Jamacia ...hot. little moist....
good lucks..
 

trezi13

Active Member
well i woke up this morning and good news (well i think) 2 of he 4 true leaves have started lifting up but almost in a curl i unno but this is the first time they have been lifted. my enviroment might not look the best but truast me ive been reading alot everything if used up have sterlized with rubbing alcohol and my hand with hand sanitizer. the ground in the grow box is always looking a little dirty like that cause the dirt i use it extremely fluffy and when you mist my plants it shoots little dirt spec all over the place.

Thanks for the replys so far please keep them coming i thnk she might be coming back.
 
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