Help for a first time grower ??

CRAZYxBUDMAN

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Started my first grow 2 days ago after I got some clones from a friend of a friend.
I got 7 x 3inch tall clones in rockwool and 6 x 5inch tall clones in rockwool in soil.
A couple of the small ones that were only in rockwool started looking a bit crappy yesterday, looks like they dried out a little while I was busy making the tubs.
I haven't transplanted them all yet, until I know they aren't stressed from all the environment changes last couple days.
I'm not sure how often to water.(Been hand watering every 4 hours or so when im awake)
I'm not sure if the nutrients are a bit too much.
I'm not sure if my light is too close or not close enough.

Any comments / suggestions / help will be appreciated.

My setup is;

1.2x1.2x1.8 approx. grow tent
400W MH Superveg
2 x 6x6 mesh pot trays on 40L tubs

Temp is around 22C.
PH 5.8
Not sure on humidity, I think it would be too low.

Nutrients (Reccomended levels from back of bottle)
CYCO Platinum Grow A & B
CYCO Ryzofuel
 

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redeyedfrog

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Watering every four hours is enough to kill them,
Water when the plant tells you to e.g. leaves droop a bit.
Overwatering will cause the roots to get a fungus called root rot; which will cause the plant to stop feeding and (dry out) if your going to use nutes id go 1/4 strength but id forego any nutes until the plants are a bit bigger.
As far as feeding nutes when tge plants are ready start at 1/4
Strength and start a diary and label each plant and increase the nutes each time until you see slight burn on tips of leaves and stop there and record the dose for each plant and you will be dialled in. I feed seaweed once a week (foliar spray) and nutes every 10 days. Also buy epsom salts and use a tablespoon per gal every other feed.
Hope that helps!
 
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ukmrgreen

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nr top of plant looks like pollen sacks ive circled it on the pic for you to see it may not be but from the pic its hard to see but looks like pollen sacks to me i may be wrong
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ISK

Well-Known Member
the pic isn't clear enough for me to make a judgement call if those are sacks or not.
 

CRAZYxBUDMAN

New Member
Thanx HEAPS for all your input guys.
Last night before seeing these comments and looking at some guides, I thought I might be over watering and they were getting Nitrogen toxicity.
So im changing to plain PHd water.

Im getting water pump and drippers today, How long do you suggest between cycles ??

As for the possible Male I was looking at a couple of them last night and was worried that possibly was a couple.

I'll take some pics this morning close up to show yas.
 

Andrewjw09

Member
Would it help to light for 24hrs instead of 18hrs to get them healthy again ??
IN B4 18 vs 24 hour light debate. Honestly it doesn't matter. Keep your light schedule the same, imo. Just stop overwatering them. The way the leaves are curling down at the very ends, I can see why you'd think nitrogen toxicity but I think the leaves and stalks are just drooping because they're heavy from too much water. If the curled leaves end up eventually turning yellow, getting brown spots and falling off, THEN you'll know it's nitrogen tox, but honestly I think it's just overwatering. Give the roots some time to breath between waterings. Overwatering doesn't mean giving it too much water at once... it's giving it water too frequently. That said, I don't know shit about hydroponics so I couldn't give you any tips on exactly how often to water.

Btw, those all look like girls to me.
 

CRAZYxBUDMAN

New Member
IN B4 18 vs 24 hour light debate. Honestly it doesn't matter. Keep your light schedule the same, imo. Just stop overwatering them. The way the leaves are curling down at the very ends, I can see why you'd think nitrogen toxicity but I think the leaves and stalks are just drooping because they're heavy from too much water. If the curled leaves end up eventually turning yellow, getting brown spots and falling off, THEN you'll know it's nitrogen tox, but honestly I think it's just overwatering. Give the roots some time to breath between waterings. Overwatering doesn't mean giving it too much water at once... it's giving it water too frequently. That said, I don't know shit about hydroponics so I couldn't give you any tips on exactly how often to water.

Btw, those all look like girls to me.
Thanx man , I was thinking most the same , but atleast with going with PHd water for now and no extra nutrients I can rule out the nitrogen tox from the nutrients.
I got them all as one batch of clones from a female so I assumed they were, after looking they look like female preflowers.

at the moment the tubs are empty except for runoff , once I have some roots ill fill them and add bubblers / water pump and drippers

Im waiting on my 6inch vent system (6inch fan / 6inch carbon filter / 6inch ducting) until then I have a small fan pushing freash air in the side port of the tent and a fan on the inside of the tent oscilating.

Temps were about 27C in the tent during light and about 18C during dark, they are sleeping now, back on at 630
 

Andrewjw09

Member
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about any males. If they were all cloned from a female, then they're all going to be female unless you stress them out too much and cause them to hermie on you.
You definitely want that stale air being removed and fresh air coming in so they can have a steady supply of Co2 in there. Get that exhaust in there asap and good luck.

Keep us updated.
 
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