Help - expensive outdoor can't afford to lose

Trippy Stix

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Why are these leaves doing this? some of my other plants are worse.. they looked like this and then after awhile the leaves brown up and just crumble up from the bottom up.. also this is happening to only certain branches on the plant, others right next to it look fine... ??? constant neem spray schedule every 1-2 week..watering schedules have been fine, never let dry out.. heavy harvest top dress every 2-3 weeks.. very happy medium... idk??
 

Csufan97

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Looks like they didn't like what you sprayed them with perhaps the concentration of the mix was too strong? Also you may want to add more water to the neem mix when you get close to the bottom of the sprayer as the oil is not mixed in as well toward the bottom. Dish soap acts as an emulsifier keeping the neem mixed in with the water. I love neem but you have to be cautious.
 

Trippy Stix

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could be.... I haven't really been measuring like I should when putting neem in the 1gal sprayer.. I try to eye out about 2-3 tbsp
 

Trippy Stix

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all of the times I sprayed (besides today..) it was late after dinner so couldn't be day spraying, Idk if it would be the strong neem destroying the leaves either because I have another spot with much larger trees that I spray neem on them even more then the plants above and they don't have a single leaf like these.. so weird cuz I've done everything the same to each plant !!
 

AtomiCronic

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Every now and again one of my jillybean clones from my mother will grow into this exact same deformed twisted craziness.
I've never flowered them out, they always get tossed and i've never found out what its from...

Always random when it happens and they never seem to grow out of it.
I use azamax for all my babies but some never show this deformity.
 

theexpress

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the neem coats the eaves in oil which in return the sun burns... imagine u rubbed olive oil on ur body and went in the sun all day.... don't use neem at all outside
 

Nizza

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(of course at night with little-no circulation) make sure medium is watered first before applying neem, then do a foliar feed of plain water and let the plant suck it up, this will reduce the rate that the plant absorbs your neem application. now once that first water spray looks sucked up you apply your need at the recommended dosage (exactly maybe less) and wait an hour or so. Be sure to avoid getting neem in the root zone cause you'll need to flush it out. After that hour i come back and do it once more. Two light applications is better than one heavy one (learned from painting) . Now we wait another hour and rinse off the leaves. I like to use my hand and sort of rub the leaves down. That neem is an oil and it can take a while to get off. If using outdoor know u wanna get most of it off then the rain will do the rest.
Apply to every square inch of the muh fucka

alsoo side not remember neem is an oil thus it likes to seperate from water. Shak e the shit outta yo bottles!!
 

oakley1984

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Simple question, Why are you spraying So much neem, and so regularly?

its quite obviously the neem oil that is disrupting new growth, some strains are susceptible to it, others arent, same goes for garden sulfur fungicides... some plants have no reaction to being sprayed, others wrinkle, others new growth burns..


can pretty much assure you your problem is from spraying neem so regularly... Cut back by at min 50%
 

Trippy Stix

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ok thanks guys i'll take a break with the neem and start to spray with serenade in about a week that flowering has begun... guess it didn't help that yesterday when I took the pics I sprayed the shit out of them with neem again... :/ I guess ill know for next year that that much neem is not needed
 

RazzaMaaNazz

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from the looks of the curled leaves (making a ring or circular turn) I'd definitely say its from the neem spray. Took strong! maybe too much. Its an oil. One thing i learned was to always use RO water with sprays.. My heavy well water always does weird stuff when mixed with sprays. I dont know why you feel you NEED to spray so frequent? I would only spray if pests are a visible/serious problem. Then, no more than it takes to make it thru harvest. remember, what you spray, you often smoke!
Some products are safer than others. Mighty wash has a mighty rinse that they are most happy to sell you as well as the wash (lol how convenient huh...lol) but its a decent pest spray.
 
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