help drooping plants

Hi I have 2 seven week old plants that started drooping in a smaller pot I transplanted them into a bigger pot about a week ago they are growing outside in south Carolina I am sure they are stressed and I'm sure the heat is not helping my situation here are some pics any help would be great....

might be overwatering or transplant shock. let the medium dry out then water with kelp and vitamin b1

I haven't really been watering them the soil is moist when you move the top layer...I moved them from the full sun hoping that may help if it is the heat...but I will definitely try anything at this point.

Drooping started before transplanting, so it's not shock. What did the root ball look like? If it was very tight, did you tease it out? The ball can get so tight in a small pot that water can't penetrate it, so no matter how much you water, it's not getting enough. Even after transplanting, the water will flow around the ball and moisten only the new soil in the pot.

Could be several things, so this is just one suggestion to consider.

I would say over watering as well but I guess you ruled that out, what are the temps like? What is your nute schedule like?

It wasn't a tight root ball... I actually am letting them do their own thing, kind of an experiment...for the past couple weeks with the geat index ot has been about 100°. They have really only been watered by the rain,which hasn't happen in a while.

I wish I knew more about growing outside man sorry, I mainly been growing indoor with coco. I can offer a free bump and best of luck I'm sure someone on here will know exactly what's going on.

calvath said:

It wasn't a tight root ball... I actually am letting them do their own thing, kind of an experiment...for the past couple weeks with the geat index ot has been about 100°. They have really only been watered by the rain,which hasn't happen in a while.

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Sounds like that might be something to consider. If the roots have not developed quite so well for some reason, they will not be able to effectively use what moisture the soil gets from the little bit of rain. The other plants may have established healthier root systems and are not suffering, at least at this point.

this is what they looked like on the 12th before I transplanted them on the 15th they are on the far right

Thanks I appreciate it.

Then after the transplant

calvath said:

View attachment 3443392 this is what they looked like on the 12th before I transplanted them on the 15th they are on the far right

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If they looked that good and the 12th, they had to droop very quickly before transplanting on the 15th. I'd say that's most likely environmental - heat and/or water. If it were mine, I'd water thoroughly to be sure all the soil is moist, then put them in full shade for 5-6 days and see if the bounce back.

Bacala said:

Sounds like that might be something to consider. If the roots have not developed quite so well for some reason, they will not be able to effectively use what moisture the soil gets from the little bit of rain. The other plants may have established healthier root systems and are not suffering, at least at this point.

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Bacala said:

If they looked that good and the 12th, they had to droop very quickly before transplanting on the 15th. I'd say that's most likely environmental - heat and/or water. If it were mine, I'd water thoroughly to be sure all the soil is moist, then put them in full shade for 5-6 days and see if the bounce back.

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I think that is what I will do,they do seem to perk up at dusk...I appreciate the help.

not even an hour after watering and putting in the shade and they are already perking up!!!

calvath said:

View attachment 3443452 not even an hour after watering and putting in the shade and they are already perking up!!!

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Great to see! Do give them several days to rest and recover though, before going back to the hot sun.

Bacala said:

Great to see! Do give them several days to rest and recover though, before going back to the hot sun.

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Oh I will I can't believe how quickly that helped! You can see the difference,amazing how quickly it can bounce back.

If you keep letting them dry out that bad the leaves will yellow and fall off. Or the get dead spots and die off. Then you think its starving or another problem.

If they were in the ground it would be okay to.let them do their thing. Roots would grow bigger and deeper to collect more water.

In a pot don't do that. The roots have nowhere but the pot to go. If its dry, its dry.

whitebb2727 said:

If you keep letting them dry out that bad the leaves will yellow and fall off. Or the get dead spots and die off. Then you think its starving or another problem.

If they were in the ground it would be okay to.let them do their thing. Roots would grow bigger and deeper to collect more water.

In a pot don't do that. The roots have nowhere but the pot to go. If its dry, its dry.

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I didn't think they needed any water the soil was moist under the top layer. ..but it has been very hot and with the transplant I'm sure they are a little mad...

calvath said:

I didn't think they needed any water the soil was moist under the top layer. ..but it has been very hot and with the transplant I'm sure they are a little mad...

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Its cool man. Its just that in 100 degree heat is a little different. If in doors in cooler temps the dirt can be dryer.

In that heat water more often and in the mornings. It will help. I cut my soil with sphagnum peat to hold moisture.