HELP! Commercial Farmer - One row of lilac diesel affected after rainstorm.

420Hempster420

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One row of my lilac diesels are affected only. This was after a bad storm. Is this wind burn, nut burn, pests? Help! Suddenly leaves turning purple/brown and entire plants dying literally overnight. No evidence of root damage by tunneling pests or verticillium/fusserium. Pics attached.
 

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xtsho

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Well that sucks. You're a commercial farmer? You should know to get those diseased plants away from the rest. There is nothing you're going to do to save that. It's trash. Burn it.

I have to ask why those plants are so small growing outdoors in the ground. You should have trees.
 

420Hempster420

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Well that sucks. You're a commercial farmer? You should know to get those diseased plants away from the rest. There is nothing you're going to do to save that. It's trash. Burn it.

I have to ask why those plants are so small growing outdoors in the ground. You should have trees.
lol we farm 500 acres so our trees don’t get above 5 ft. We planted in August. In Oklahoma. They are all clones we started flowering August 27. With that many acres we don’t have the man power for large trees. Yea they are already in the trash.I’ve been farming many years andnever seen bud rot kill a whole plant over night
 

Zinger59

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lol we farm 500 acres so our trees don’t get above 5 ft. We planted in August. In Oklahoma. They are all clones we started flowering August 27. With that many acres we don’t have the man power for large trees. Yea they are already in the trash.I’ve been farming many years andnever seen bud rot kill a whole plant over night
Conditions must have been right, temps and humidity. Was probably within the plant and the rain helped to spread it. 500 acres, ya can't inspect every bud!
 

420Hempster420

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Conditions must have been right, temps and humidity. Was probably within the plant and the rain helped to spread it. 500 acres, ya can't inspect every bud!
Exactly. I think we did pretty good for what we had. We planted in unamended native red clay soil - we had drainage issues and other problems like verticillium wilt, I would have amended but hard to find so much compost as we only got our permit on June 26. So for being completely virgin soil and getting to where we are today id say it was a failure but a successful failure. BF65C269-5A53-4A5A-956E-C19C9E7DF6B8.jpegalso hard to spray properly. I was in charge of 40 acres and our crew walked those 40 acres every night spraying plants. So we did have eyes on the plants every day but again it is hard to catch everything. Bad caterpillars this year - leave behind bud rot, so perhaps it Just spread rapidly due to cold rain and killed that row quickly. Of course we removed the plants and went caterpillar hunting as we were too close to harvest to spray anything that would kill them. I know what I am doing, just came here for advice as every season is different. I havent seen bud rot spread that quick ever. So thought maybe could be something different. I feel slightly attacked for asking a “stupid” question but thanks to everyone who was helpful.
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420Hempster420

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Stating the obvious that those plants should be removed immediately and that they are trash is sharks circling?

C'mon, this isn't Sesame Street or Mr Rogers neighborhood. Why do people have to put icing on everything?
No need to be Mr Rogers but I am obviously an experienced grower to be in the position I am in and was looking for insight. Never seen bud rot spread so fast. We have been dealing with cut worms and caterpillars of every variety this year and of course with caterpillars comes bud rot. Just thought that this was unusual for a plant to go from green one day to bud rot on the entire plant the next day. As we had a low budget this being the first year at this location and not getting our license until June 26th we weren’t able to get compost for the soil. So unfortunately planting in unamended native clay soil has caused many issues for us, including verticillium wilt. Something I had never seen in dry California. What I think is that a plant with verticillium wilt drained down to the rest of this row as it was on a hill and it attacked quickly due to the rain. We will definitely be wary of this next year as I’ve researched verticillium stays in the soil for years. So we will need to proceed with caution and do our best to get proper amendments. We might sanitize the soil with H2O2 before we grade and til the land and amend and put a cover crop for the winter. The clay soil is tough to work with.
. I think we did pretty good for what we had. . So for being completely virgin soil and getting to where we are today id say it was a failure but a successful failure.

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also hard to spray properly. I was in charge of 40 acres and our crew walked those 40 acres every night spraying plants. So we did have eyes on the plants every day but again it is hard to catch everything. Bad caterpillars this year - leave behind bud rot, so perhaps it Just spread rapidly due to cold rain and killed that row quickly. Of course we removed the plants and went caterpillar hunting as we were too close to harvest to spray anything that would kill them. I know what I am doing, just came here for advice as every season is different. I havent seen bud rot spread that quick ever. So thought maybe could be something different. I feel slightly attacked for asking a “stupid” question but thanks to everyone who was helpful.

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xtsho

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No need to be Mr Rogers but I am obviously an experienced grower to be in the position I am in and was looking for insight. Never seen bud rot spread so fast. We have been dealing with cut worms and caterpillars of every variety this year and of course with caterpillars comes bud rot. Just thought that this was unusual for a plant to go from green one day to bud rot on the entire plant the next day. As we had a low budget this being the first year at this location and not getting our license until June 26th we weren’t able to get compost for the soil. So unfortunately planting in unamended native clay soil has caused many issues for us, including verticillium wilt. Something I had never seen in dry California. What I think is that a plant with verticillium wilt drained down to the rest of this row as it was on a hill and it attacked quickly due to the rain. We will definitely be wary of this next year as I’ve researched verticillium stays in the soil for years. So we will need to proceed with caution and do our best to get proper amendments. We might sanitize the soil with H2O2 before we grade and til the land and amend and put a cover crop for the winter. The clay soil is tough to work with.
. I think we did pretty good for what we had. . So for being completely virgin soil and getting to where we are today id say it was a failure but a successful failure.

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also hard to spray properly. I was in charge of 40 acres and our crew walked those 40 acres every night spraying plants. So we did have eyes on the plants every day but again it is hard to catch everything. Bad caterpillars this year - leave behind bud rot, so perhaps it Just spread rapidly due to cold rain and killed that row quickly. Of course we removed the plants and went caterpillar hunting as we were too close to harvest to spray anything that would kill them. I know what I am doing, just came here for advice as every season is different. I havent seen bud rot spread that quick ever. So thought maybe could be something different. I feel slightly attacked for asking a “stupid” question but thanks to everyone who was helpful.

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Nobody questioned your experience or was trying to attack you.

I've seen bud rot spread significantly overnight but I'm north up in Portland where the climate is different and is a pretty common threat.

Your first post that I replied to only showed a couple of plants that obviously needed to be destroyed. You made no mention of the scale of your grow. Then someone made a comment about sharks circling. I don't see where anyone did anything that could be compared to sharks circling which is where my Mr Rodgers comment came from. Being succinct and to the point is apparently looked at in a negative way I guess.

I hope you get everything in order and it all works out. Involvement in a commercial cannabis operation is one thing I would never do and I've had opportunities to get involved in the industry. Too many variables and unknowns for me to put my money into.

Yes caterpillars can be a problem even if you spray. I don't know what you're spraying but there are some caterpillars that have developed a resistance to BT and other insecticidal products. So things are likely only going to get worse as far as fighting pests in the future.

Good luck
 

Failmore

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That picture of the field is crazy. What is the end purpose of the bud? Carts or something like that? Or do they sell that as flower?

That is like the dream of every 20 year old stoner haha.
 
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