++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

hellraizer30 said:

Fantastic someguy keep me posted on the progress

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Will do. Also just scooped a TurboKlone Mini 24 site cloner. Can't wait to use a legit cloner lol I've been using root riot and a dome... was serving me pretty well but this round got damn fungus gnat larva in some of the clones and killed them! Pretty pissed but life goes on. Most of my genetic pool is safe at least.

Use the tea in that cloner will help keep them from roting! Clones need 5.5 ph and 70f and above temps in a cloner so
Tea is a must to control bactiria

aero cloning is best done at those temps with something like clonex liquid which is anti-microbial.microbes are nice to introduce once roots are established and into veg. this is opinion only and all kinds of shit works I'm sure.

? do thoes diy co2 setups help out any my temps are around 72-83 when the lights are on i have the supplies on hand already so it wont cost anything to add it to the tent

Im not super up to speed on co2 never needed it!

Hey, HR... Another question lol. Gnats/white flys how do you get rid of them besides the sticky strips. My plant vitality is more of a spider mite killer an isn't as effective right now.

Dam insane white flys and gnats ugg i bet i know how you got them! Coco says sterile! Well i got news on that one,
After all my testers died to damping off! I set the 4in pots aside and paid no attention to them well yesterday i looked
At them and guess what i see? WEEDs yah basic weeds going as green as ever, wtf! Sterile my ass. I also noticed gnats
Flying around hmm!

Go gnats and fly tape works for me on the gnats! But white fly i hear is a fucking bitch! Bro

marmarb said:

well since i went and checked on the babies i figured i could snap a pic or two of my veg tent thats a 400 dual lamp currently runing mh bulb plants are exactly 1ft away added two cups of water to help with humidity temp are steady at 86 but when lights go out i put a small heater in to keep it at 75 they are on a 18/6 schedule current feeding is 5ml of root excell aqua flakes A and B meduim is 95% coco with the other 5% being rapid rooters as thats what they were started in up close photo is sweet tooth tent is a 2x2x5





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Loooks good bro nice and healthy

Lol, nahh my coco is sterile for sure I've never had anything like that happen. When I brought in the chem dawg mother it was in soil then I transplanted into coco. I believe they were in the soil I just didn't notice. I didn't get it until I introduced the chemdawg strain :/ almost thinking about stripping her for clones an kilin er off an starting over. The guy who I got it from had gnats, but I didn't think anything of it since I sprayed down the soil a little.

I'm almost considering making a batch of coco an setting it aside just to make sure I don't have that problem. What brand coco are you using??

The brand is down to earth coco blocks, i took pics of the weeds lol could not believe what i was seeing

hellraizer30 said:

Loooks good bro nice and healthy

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i had a inline fan just sitting around that i normally use with my filter dont need it at the moment in veg once i stuck it on there temp doesnt get over 75 and it hits 65 when lights off been that way for two days and you can deff see the growth just boom than again it could be that the rooths have finally made it to the 2in rez in the cups looking good for 10 days old i personally think that its a cummalation of me using the ph and tds meters and the fan and the plants it self 3 more weeks and hopefully i have pre flowers if not than im gonna just take 2 clones each and flower the seed plants

funny yall say that about the coco ive never had a problem with fly using the coco or gnats

Are there any do and donts to this thread

Bernie420 said:

Are there any do and donts to this thread

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My intent is to target cap,titan,sentinal and green trees system weeknesses but as of late i have been swamped
With RL stuff and havnt got a chance to touch on much bernie420

You have a issue you want to address?

Ok, never used that brand before. I've been buying general hydro's coco. My bad for derailing lol, I just kinda assumed that no one would mind me askin about gnats, since I know it's a common problem for some people.

No I dont have an issue but am watching this thread so I can learn a thing or two. I havnt seen a lot of do's or don'ts about the topic so I wanted to ask.

I run the flow n grow systems. Things I learned I can safely say in my limited experience are.

Dont have your lid off your reservoir when the pump kicks on.
Dont have any of your feed lines to your pots criss crossed, they all need to lay flat.
Do make sure your control bucket is a little bit lower or level with the rest of your pots.
Do make sure all of your pots are level. If not adjust by sticking something under it to raise the lowest ones.

I have i dip in my basement floor.
Fill up and drain your pots to see were the water level is in all of your pots. Measure down from the lip to be accurate. They all should be really close if not then adjust by putting something to raise the ones that need to be raised to make them all level. What happened to me is that three pots were in a low spot and that made the water drain out but was to high in the pots and the meshed inserts was sitting just in the water making my roots not grow very good in those pots, I adjusted the pots up with some magazines and the problem is solved and my roots in those three pots are back on track.

Are you using the 2-3, or 5 gallon buckets? Also are you usig the inner buckets or just the lids with the built in mesh? I noticed that if your not using a Benny tea, the roots start to air prune themselves once their out of the bucket. Unless theirs some water sitting at the base of the buckets. But that can also cause pyrithum, which in turn will cause root rot.

how are you guys runing the coco in the ebb and flow setups do you just water less frequently ? but than i wonder like how is the top of the pots being watered because if im still gonna have to hand water the top than whats the point

Lol, nahh idk if you can flood n drain with the coco. It's super absorbent so a drip system from the top or hand watering is the best way. I like hand watering because you can measure out how much each plant gets per day. Plus I don't have the supplies for a drip system otherwise I would do a drip.