++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

phillipchristian

New Member
Some of you might not know yet but im have been running tests with alternative methods of adding bennys to your res!
This goes out to all who dont want to brew tea but would like a more simple method.

So im over 1 1/2 weeks with just using aquashield adding strait to the res, at 200ml every three days and il report
Theres zero smell or signs of bactiria. Ph is rocl solid! Water uptake has been the same and roots are great looking!
Water temp is 65f at the res and 68f at the lower control box. So far aqua shield is doing its thing!

I will continue to report finding as i go, and also will take note of how dirty things are when i do
As res change for all who are interested.
Thanks for sharing bud. I've heard a ton of guys talk about Aquashield but I've never really checked it out. May have to take a look at it now. Keep me posted.
 

hornedfrog2000

Well-Known Member
I'm debating just going back to h2o2. I can get 5 gallons of it for $200 @ 35%. I just need to do a bit of math to see what it would last me. I would think close to a year. Probably worth it just to do it.
 

dickkhead

Active Member
Im not fully understanding what your geting at?
is tap water ok to run on the flood and drain? my tap is 50 ppm. and im using a coco medium instead of the promix like i sadi I was originaly going to run

Do you not have a R/o unit attatched to the tap? or just buying the r/o. if you are concerned about the water quality a cheap r/o system can be bought for 100$, and as long as your not doing a huge op this should suffice.
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I have an RO sytem I have it plummed to a 2.5 gallon reserve tank but in order fro me to change out 2 40 gallon reservoirs will take forver!! thats why id rather run tap. is there anyway to get constant pressure out of a RO system? or would I have to plum a seperate larger holding tank?
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
H202 has a shelf life and wont last a year hornedfrog, the aquashiel is 20 to 25 bucks a gal.
Im thinking your better off with the bennys! Plus h202 will fail you at some point.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
I use tap water bro with no il effects although r/o would be ideal!


is tap water ok to run on the flood and drain? my tap is 50 ppm. and im using a coco medium instead of the promix like i sadi I was originaly going to run

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I have an RO sytem I have it plummed to a 2.5 gallon reserve tank but in order fro me to change out 2 40 gallon reservoirs will take forver!! thats why id rather run tap. is there anyway to get constant pressure out of a RO system? or would I have to plum a seperate larger holding tank?
 

phillipchristian

New Member
is tap water ok to run on the flood and drain? my tap is 50 ppm. and im using a coco medium instead of the promix like i sadi I was originaly going to run

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I have an RO sytem I have it plummed to a 2.5 gallon reserve tank but in order fro me to change out 2 40 gallon reservoirs will take forver!! thats why id rather run tap. is there anyway to get constant pressure out of a RO system? or would I have to plum a seperate larger holding tank?
Hey bro! With 50ppm water I would just run tap. I wish my water was that clean.

If you really wanna use the R/O system then you need to create a reservoir for it out of a garbage can or 55 gallon drum. Use a float valve connected to the system. I'm not sure which R/O system you have but some of them sell seperate booster pumps as well. Either way you're going to need a reservoir.
 

dickkhead

Active Member
I use tap water bro with no il effects although r/o would be ideal!
no doubt!! glad to hear:)

Hey bro! With 50ppm water I would just run tap. I wish my water was that clean.

If you really wanna use the R/O system then you need to create a reservoir for it out of a garbage can or 55 gallon drum. Use a float valve connected to the system. I'm not sure which R/O system you have but some of them sell seperate booster pumps as well. Either way you're going to need a reservoir.
yea I just researched it and I could hook up a 40 gallon drum with a float valve for 150 bucks in parts, or buy a 40 gallon pressurized tank ( which would be bad ass) for 600.00

for now Ill stick with tap. I have plumbing lines right next to my tent so Ill cut in a T and maybe a house filter and then a hose bibb. Id like to try an find a lead free garden hose to complete it!
thanks guys!!
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Hey got a question that seems to attract some debate! Coco either in pure form or in ready gro form, WHAT is the correct
Ph level to use? Coco is a soiless medium so in my mind that means seting ph in the 5.6 to 6.0 range. But friends and forum
Threads claim it can go both ways, i have run it as a hydro soiless medium and in the 5 range. So lets hear your thought riu?
 

phillipchristian

New Member
I've always run it at 5.8-6.0. Can't remember where I picked it up but it's always worked for me. Not sure if it has to do with coco having potassium in it but I know the extra potassium affects your bloom nute formula.
 

akpaco

Active Member
HR, I'm attaching a pic of one of my leaves. This seems to be a continuing issue. I was away for a few days since I switched over to 12/12. I noticed some of the new growth on the plants were a little pale yellow? Also I used some go gnats a couple of weeks ago because I noticed some, not a lot in my res and buckets and this seemed to work. I used it for 2 weeks and stopped, it looks like there back. About the same as before. should I continue to use gognats? Thanks in advance!

PH 5.6-6.1
Res temp 63-66
PPM 1100-140 for tap



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hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Is that leaf off the lower part of the plant? Gnats in adult form are harmless but in new born form they live in your root zone
And eat your roots. I dont like gognats some people i know use bayer to cure it, theres a link in the first post on this thread
The op name is insane and he used bayer look it up bro!
 

akpaco

Active Member
HR, Here are some pics. The discolored leaves sporadically on plant are the ones in the picture of last post. The other pictures show the new growth is a little pale. I just emptied my res it looked like shit water, but didn't smell. My probes were covered in brown slime. So i emptied it and now I have no idea what I should put back in there. Not sure what could of caused the brown water. The water wasn't as bad as the probes and the cords as it seemed they kind of attracted the slime. When I switched to 12/12 used.

Grow
Micro
Bloom
B52
CalMag
Bud ignitor
Big bud
Carbo load


What do you think caused my water to get so brown? Also the pale color on some of the new growth on top? Some of the leaves in the pictures look real dark bluish green, there not. its the camera setting. Sorry for being a pain in the ass but first go at this. Thanks again!




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hornedfrog2000

Well-Known Member
Is this your first grow? Just wondering. Anyway, in my experience when you flip to 12/12 the bud sites turn a little yellowish green.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Stop using carboload it feed bactiria and can be dirty! Also bud ignitor is a bit dirty also but if its not smelling
Bad and your ph isnt wack then it should be fine just clean it good and refill -the carbo load

HR, Here are some pics. The discolored leaves sporadically on plant are the ones in the picture of last post. The other pictures show the new growth is a little pale. I just emptied my res it looked like shit water, but didn't smell. My probes were covered in brown slime. So i emptied it and now I have no idea what I should put back in there. Not sure what could of caused the brown water. The water wasn't as bad as the probes and the cords as it seemed they kind of attracted the slime. When I switched to 12/12 used.

Grow
Micro
Bloom
B52
CalMag
Bud ignitor
Big bud
Carbo load


What do you think caused my water to get so brown? Also the pale color on some of the new growth on top? Some of the leaves in the pictures look real dark bluish green, there not. its the camera setting. Sorry for being a pain in the ass but first go at this. Thanks again!




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