Hello. Newbie here. Help appreciated.

Hi,
Here I have is 5 inzane in the membrane ladies. It is my First time using this strain. I’m using destiny grow systems dark matter as a medium first time. Lol
Didn’t realize the run off was around 2200+ ppm. Until after they were transferred. I flushed with 7.0 RO water and growth plus.
The problem is I am Still having issues.

Ph run off 6.2-6.5.
LED lights are 7”-9” above canopy.
I have a fan blowing the top of the heat sink and the plants themselves.
Room temp is 76-78. Humidity is 55%.
The run off of the plants were 2000-3000ppm. So I flushed till runoff was about 400-600ppm so I put them back in and it’s been three days.
Stays moist and wet for 5-6 days.
I’m getting curling thinking it’s overwatering since I just flushed them not sure three show the same signs.

But the smaller ladies aren’t doing so well.

LED lights are quantum board lm301b 4000k 240w two panels. On a dimmable switch that’s set to about 140w.

Feeling like the high ppm in the destiny dark matter set this back.
But is the ppm still to high in the medium for that small of a plant?

Any help would be appreciated and I am open to learning and want to be happy and gain knowledge from my hobby.

Thank you,
Nunhunter

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Photos. Ones stretching. Three leaves curlings.

NunHunter said:

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Your lights are way too close first off. Way way too close. You’re not going to be able to flush your problems away. Hold all feeds. None. Not unless you see a DEFICIENCY later developing. Study up on deficiency and excess of the various elements and try to know the difference.

How are you getting 2200 ppm runoff in plants that small? What are you feeding them.

I think you could back the light off a bit and they are showing some sign of minor heat stress maybe from the light being to close

Personally I would buy Pro Mix or Sunshine and transplant now.

The destiny dark matter is prefertilized at over 2200ppm lol. Literally took ro water and 200ml in a solo cup half full of the soil and checked ppm and it was off charts ec was around 3.3-4.

So I flushed and my run off ppm is now at 400-600ppm.
I’m using ro water set to 6.2 ph no nutes.

The soil retains water for 5-7 days unless the plants drinking it up quickly.

Raised led to 12” from pots. The dimmable switch is at half power of 240w output.

Problem was the left guy is stretching.

Curling most likely due to light and or flush for overwater.

Aqua Man said:

How are you getting 2200 ppm runoff in plants that small? What are you feeding them.

I think you could back the light off a bit and they are showing some sign of minor heat stress maybe from the light being to close

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It’s organic but hotter than a freshly fucked fox in a forest fire. Ditch that shit.

Haha I feel ya. I was thinking of just flushing the current girls till the run off is near 0. Then just use. Green planet Medi one 4-3-3 till flower. After this I’ll be getting sunshine.

NunHunter said:

Haha I feel ya. I was thinking of just flushing the current girls till the run off is near 0. Then just use. Green planet Medi one 4-3-3 till flower. After this I’ll be getting sunshine.

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Post regular pics of the plants after you follow this plan.

You thinking transplanting them into sunshine would save the smaller gals?

You think I should flush now even with this major flush I did 3 days ago? Probably would be helpful if they were close to 0ppm. Then on last flush add my Medi one mix and some growth plus.

You think it’ll be better then waiting 2-4 days till soils dry?
Only two are growing.


The run off I’m putting in garden outside diluted. Tomatoes liking it haha.

Yeah I'm a hydro guy and keep my mother in promix. Probably a lot different in organics.
OP 12" is still to close. New growers tend to think more is better if you continue with this way of thinking you will watch your plants die. Less is always better than more.

I hate advocating this but often have no choice for new growers that don't have the feel or equipment yet.

Download "light meter" app by my mobile tools dev. Adjust the light so you are getting about 10000-15000 lumens for this stage of growth. There are much better ways to adjust light but without the feel for it or the equipment this costs nothing and will get you close.

I would say stay away from pre-fertilized soils until you have more experience.

Thanks aqua man I’ll definitely get them set to the correct lumen and height.

Okay so I grabbed a light meter app. At 12” at canopy I am getting 12k-16k lux.

If I use the dimmable switch the lumens will lower. Which means I can bring the light closer to the canopy. As long as the heat is taken away by a fan. If theirs no light bleaching I should be good. Correct me if I’m wrong.

If I use the dimmable switch and turn down the power the lumens will also lower and the heat. I should be bale to get within 6” and get the required lumens I need at half the wattage. Correct if I am wrong.

NunHunter said:

You thinking transplanting them into sunshine would save the smaller gals?

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Guaranteed.

NunHunter said:

If I use the dimmable switch and turn down the power the lumens will also lower and the heat. I should be bale to get within 6” and get the required lumens I need at half the wattage. Correct if I am wrong.

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Read up! You’re definitely on the wrong track in multiple ways.

https://www.dormgrow.com/grow-tips-for-led-grow-lights/

Okay I’ll put to 12-14” off canopy. I’ll turn them up to around 10000-15000 lux/lumens.

I’ll flush till they are around 0-100ppm run off and if the little ones don’t start recovering and getting some growth I’ll transplant into sunshine.