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They say bud gets stronger and has greater effects as they continue cross breeding, so I am wondering what the latest and greatest strains are. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I don't really think thats true sure theirs some good weed coming out but shit like jack herer, ak-47 ,sensi star, etc are still some of the best strains. I don't know about you but I would rather grow all the great classic strains their realy hasn't been too many strains coming out from the older breeders either most of the new shit is from all the calli and spanish breeders not so much the companies that have been around 15+ years.They say bud gets stronger and has greater effects as they continue cross breeding, so I am wondering what the latest and greatest strains are. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hmm I wonder if there's a database that is keeping track of strains, to an extent of it of course.Last few years:-
Jamaican Dream - Eva seeds
white dragon - Eva seeds
Exile - serious seeds
Melon gum - dr underground
Off the top of my head
Hmm I wonder if there's a database that is keeping track of strains, to an extent of it of course.
I don't believe this to be true.They say bud gets stronger and has greater effects as they continue cross breeding, so I am wondering what the latest and greatest strains are. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah I'd have to agree with you for the most part. I guess I thought someone would know of something crazy, but guess not.I don't believe this to be true.
In terms of sheer potency, the best strains from 20+ years ago are still right up there with the best ones from today.
Durban Poision, Herijuana, Williams Wonder, and Northern Lights (just to name a few) are all 20 year old or older strains that have had cuts measured at 20%(+) THC, putting them right up there with "Super Duper Kush 2012".
Cannabis has been selectively bred for literally thousands of years to achieve max potency, and its probably been achieved already (or pretty close).
In my opinion, the biggest advances of the last decade are better FLAVORED crosses, shorter flowering times with sativa-dominant strains, autoflowering strain development, and just much better availability and variety of super-potent strains.
He's never finished a grow, Wtf are you saying?Hi nightmare...I suggest you PM a poster called "hazey grapes"...his knowledge is vast when it comes to growing and breeding newer strains...especially sativas
lol yaaa....notice how ever post he makes is like a mile long...that guys a nut..Hi nightmare...I suggest you PM a poster called "hazey grapes"...his knowledge is vast when it comes to growing and breeding newer strains...especially sativas
As far as I can tell, the strain Blue Dream is at least four or five years old, it typically tests in at 15-20% THC, and that would make it no stronger than either of the best cuts of its decades-old parents (haze and DJ Short Blueberry), nor the majority of the strong medical strains. Yes, I realize there may be exceptional cases of higher test results. . .see below.Some of the newer OG hybrids are testing closer to 25% while the classic strains seem to hover right around 20%. Some of the strains I'm thinking about include Platinum OG, MK-Ultra, and Girl Scout Cookies. Some of the newer haze hybrids like Blue Dream are also leaving the classic strains somewhat in the dust.
Note that at this point both OG Kush and Sour Diesel are each 20+ year old strains. With individual examples testing at 23 and 24%, that puts them right up there with the best of the 2012 "ultra-kushes" (most of which are directly derived from these two, anyway).http://pureanalytics.net/blog/2012/04/10/cannabis-potency-by-the-numbers-nor-cals-most-tested-strains/
The Nor Cal cannabis market is characterized overall by THC-dominant cannabis with an average THC potency level between 16-17%. While the majority of strains hover around the average, there are certain thresholds that we see in cannabis potency, with fewer examples performing in these brackets. THC-dominant cannabis less than 10% THC represents an anomaly in the Nor Cal medical cannabis environment. Similarly, as potency levels reach toward 21% THC, many fewer examples are seen that perform in this range, regardless of strain. Above 21% appear two more distinct thresholds with dramatic drop-offs in the number of cannabis samples that perform above 23% and then at above 25% we see very few samples in thousands that perform this high.
. . .While OG Kush has an average THC potency of around 19% , skill and growing conditions matter with low performing examples around 13% and the best of the best above 23% THC. CBD range remains consistent with values from 0-0.7% by weight.
. . .Sour Diesel demonstrates a similar potency performance range to OG Kush with the lowest potency examples seen at around 12% with the highest performing crops coming in at almost 24% THC!
Again, in terms of just potency, I think the best cuts from any of the super-strong strains of the last 25 years are going to be up there with the best of what's around today: AK-47, the "white" strains, etc.Yeah I'd have to agree with you for the most part. I guess I thought someone would know of something crazy, but guess not.
IME I have found that the test numbers mean squat...For instance I had some BF LSD that tested 23% thc...some c99 that tested 18%...the c99 blew the lsd away....had my grows tested I did but no more...doesn't seem to mean squatI don't believe this to be true.
In terms of sheer potency, the best strains from 20+ years ago are still right up there with the best ones from today.
Durban Poision, Herijuana, Williams Wonder, and Northern Lights (just to name a few) are all 20 year old or older strains that have had cuts measured at 20%(+) THC, putting them right up there with "Super Duper Kush 2012".
Cannabis has been selectively bred for literally thousands of years to achieve max potency, and its probably been achieved already (or pretty close).
In my opinion, the biggest advances of the last decade are better FLAVORED crosses, shorter flowering times with sativa-dominant strains, autoflowering strain development, and just much better availability and variety of super-potent strains.
Amazingly, the actual test results I've found are quite different than the results you've posted. Take a look for yourself.As far as I can tell, the strain Blue Dream is at least four or five years old, it typically tests in at 15-20% THC, and that would make it no stronger than either of the best cuts of its decades-old parents (haze and DJ Short Blueberry), nor the majority of the strong medical strains. Yes, I realize there may be exceptional cases of higher test results. . .see below.
The same is true of all the strains you've mentioned. Here are a variety of published test results:
MK Ultra: 15-22% THC. http://budgenius.com/search.html?cmd=search&query=mk+ultra&submit=Strain+ID+Search
Girl Scout Cookies: 19% THC. http://budgenius.com/search.html?cmd=search&query=Girlscout+Cookies
Platinum OG: 13-21% THC http://budgenius.com/search.html?tab=2&cmd=search&query=platinum+og&rating=&Thc9=0%+-+30%&Cbd=0%+-+10%&Cbn=0%+-+10%&location=&coordinates=&radius=10
Northern Lights: 11-26% (!) THC: http://budgenius.com/search.html?tab=2&cmd=search&query=northern+lights&rating=&Thc9=0%+-+30%&Cbd=0%+-+10%&Cbn=0%+-+10%&location=&coordinates=&radius=10
And with due respect to you and "budgenius" I think you have to take all published THC content results with a gigantic grain of salt.
First rule of thumb is, if you didn't see the report with your own eyes, and if its not from one of a very small number of reputable testing facilities, its bogus. Obviously that's not true in every case, but enough breeders and sellers are distorting or outright lying about THC contents, that this is certainly true often enough that's its a good rule.
For obvious reasons, there are all sorts of conflicts of interest in reporting these sorts of results, and its in everyone in the industries' interest to maintain the perception that the newest strains blow away everything else in terms of potency. That's true for breeders, ceid-sellers, dispensaries, magazine sellers, etc. Again, as far as I can tell, its simply not true. Part of the reason you may see skew towards the newer strains is simply because there is a lot more interest in testing them, selling them, and promoting them.
In general, and assuming actual testing, not only will results vary to some extent from lab to lab even between reputable labs, they can vary wildly from grow to grow (even between different grows of clones of the same mother plant), and can even vary considerably depending on which part of the SAME plant you're testing. Its also possible to adulterate individual samples by adding a small amount of kief/hash to them. So far as I know, no lab tests for that. . .they only report THC in samples they've received.
Lots of people are CLAIMING 24%+ THC strains, but the reality is that testing of any strain is always going to yield a range of results, and that ACTUAL BUDS testing in that high are exceptionally unusual, almost certainly representing an absolute best case scenario (possibly even with dumb luck involved), not something you'd likely see in the vast majority of actual grows with that strain. Here is some pretty sound recent commentary on this topic from one of the actual testing labs. This was published about seven months ago; I'm only quoting an excerpt, read the whole thing:
Note that at this point both OG Kush and Sour Diesel are each 20+ year old strains. With individual examples testing at 23 and 24%, that puts them right up there with the best of the 2012 "ultra-kushes" (most of which are directly derived from these two, anyway).
Good info thanks.Amazingly, the actual test results I've found are quite different than the results you've posted. Take a look for yourself.
Blue Dream testing at:
+ 24% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120911K043
+ 24.4% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120801N003
+ 25.2% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120626J008
MK Ultra testing at:
+ 27.9% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120730L005
+ 26.9% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120628Q004
Platinum OG testing at:
+ 28.5% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120503K008
+ 23.3% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120625N001
+ 24.4% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=121006L091
Girl Scout Cookies testing at:
+ 28.1% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120830L009
+ 30.7% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120928I051
+ 25.8% total active cannabinoids: http://www.sclabs.com/sample-details.html?task=sample&sample=120526J006
Fact is the info posted at BudGenius is quite limited. The tests posted above are from one of the most respected testing facilities in the medical scene.