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Greenthumbskunk

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That’s a lot of clones. Must keep you busy. You use straight water?
I used to have a grow room that had almost 300 plants and had a greenhouse where I used clones. When you need clones you need em.
You can put 2 cuttings in each collar, I even made a 120 site cloner and a 96 using net cups with bottom cut off and collars. Couldn't keep the lie from leaking water out though even better when I us ed gasket seal around the lip. Built my own misters with PVC pipe and a pump.

I always used well water which is a little over 20 ppm here. Any cloning gel was a waist of money.
 

Turpman

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I used to have a grow room that had almost 300 plants and had a greenhouse where I used clones. When you need clones you need em.
You can put 2 cuttings in each collar, I even made a 120 site cloner and a 96 using net cups with bottom cut off and collars. Couldn't keep the lie from leaking water out though even better when I us ed gasket seal around the lip. Built my own misters with PVC pipe and a pump.

I always used well water which is a little over 20 ppm here. Any cloning gel was a waist of money.
That’s some nice well water mine is 600 so I run an RO.
 

Greenthumbskunk

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I lived in Fort Dodge Iowa for awhile few years back. I worked out there. We built a Georgia pacific plant. They made 2'×2' waterproof drywall for countertops. When I got there it was the hottest day in like forever out there. Hit records over the summer. All the corn was fried and dead every where. The day we left it was the coldest they had in like 10 years or some crap. We used to go to bar out there. Called the community I think. I got a tattoo while I was out there. So I always have a piece of Iowa with me.

Was it 2012?
 

Greenthumbskunk

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That's one thing I've never done. Is a foliage feeding or spraying of any kind. I did do the neem oil/dish soap one time. And it literally killed 3 females in my tent. The one and only time I've ever sprayed anything on my plants. I've seen other people have fantastic results from foliar sprays. But I'm not one of them lol.

I've done foilar sprays many many times. Just don't use any kind of oil lol. I've done the same thing with neem oil as you did. About 15 years ago I was gonna be organic and use need to get rid of some pests I had on some outdoor plants. These were not small plants by any means but 12-15' tall sativa's. I usually got 10 lbs out of em. Anyways I did as the instructions said and I smoked off every leaf I had in one of my areas. I probably had 15 of them like that. Half come out of it and grew leaves back out and the others died. The ones that grew the leaves back out ended up throwing nanners they got so stressed out over it. So it was all garbage. Expensive mistake.

As far as foilar sprays I use it if their is a plant problem in the roots and hard for plant to take up nutes. Like it's been raining a lot and roots are water logged, pH imbalance and lime hasn't corrected it yet, etc. But I learned to spray at dusk and not in mid day sun and my ppm I kept below 150. If your too strong your gonna burn the leaves.

You can spray tomatoe plants and other vegetables and be fine but cannibus can be finicky.
 

NoWaistedSpace

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P.S. two of these plants had root rot before moving into the flower tent. The two big ones. If you have Pythium in RDWC, continuous ~2ppm-8ppm of chlorine for about 8 days will stop the reproduction of it. If you have Fusarium you are fucked, but it is worth trying if you cannot identify the pathogen within certain bounds of understanding.
I know Pythium spp. and Cyanobacteria spp. by their smell and tactile feel, respectively, within a useful degree of certainty. Freshwater fish keeping (aquariums) definitely helped me with that.
I have no experience with Fusarium but have learned that one is probably best off disassembling, bleaching, drying and re-assembling one’s entire system to have any hope of eradicating it.

Sodium hypochlorite can be a good friend in small doses, just like that squirrelly jackass you went to high school with.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach

10ppm of bleach seems phytotoxic to certain strains and unestablished root systems. Some strains may be more sensitive, #ymmv. Get a colorimeter if you want to get serious about it. Beneficial bacteria works too, but Fusarium and other pathogens can still kick your ass. I am on the fence about H2O2, personally. I prefer bleaaaach!
I wonder how beneficial "pond water" here on the farm would be at fighting them. or make it worse. I can't imagine it hurting in "organics".
Now hydro might be a different situation. I'm not a Hydrogenen. lol
 

Greenthumbskunk

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I've had condensates in EVERY product I've tried. Didn't matter to me, I shook it up and used till done.

I use Foliage Pro and Protekt as a feed during veg and first 2 weeks of flower. No spray. Then a drop of Protekt, FP and Bloom with a drop of Mag-Pro last 2 weeks. Then a week water and done.

I did use Protekt once in a foilage spray combined with some other goods to try out.
All 6 plants stalks got so hard they were like oak and ended up killing the plants. Some took a month and some lasted until last of flower with each Branch dying down from the tip to the stalk.

In my dwc I def use it but at .5 ml per gal. Never in a foilage feed though.
 

Greenthumbskunk

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I'm so glad for Heisen and everything he's doing. This may seem silly to some but if I didn't have these beans to look forward to I'd prolly be in a really dark place. I'm really grateful for everything he's doing. So excited we're only a couple weeks out.

I hear ya. I never heard of some of the strains he had until I come to this part of the forum and clicked on his thread.
Where I'm at their is no store to go buy cuts or even anybody who has clones of good top quality gear.
That's why I'm sticking by with Heisenberg.
I did order some seeds from GPS here in the last couple of days to try and breed with. Hopefully get a nice male to breed with some projects I've been tinkering with the last few years.
 

Greenthumbskunk

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IMG_20190310_155400.jpg IMG_20190310_155108.jpg This is my first time growing this inside I tried last fall outside but the worms got it. Luckily it rooted when I took a cut. This is something that I bred up.
I flowered it out under a really shitty led light to see what it looks like . It stretches much more than it's sister plant does.
Their was a third female that I tried taking a cutting on but it had been chomped on by the worms and died. The whole plant got eat up like the rest but it had frost covering the buds, fan leaves and even on the stalk. Never had that much fost on any outside plant before. And I've grown hundreds and hundreds of em over the years.
 

Jesselikes2grow

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I hear ya. I never heard of some of the strains he had until I come to this part of the forum and clicked on his thread.
Where I'm at their is no store to go buy cuts or even anybody who has clones of good top quality gear.
That's why I'm sticking by with Heisenberg.
I did order some seeds from GPS here in the last couple of days to try and breed with. Hopefully get a nice male to breed with some projects I've been tinkering with the last few years.
Where I'm at I can go buy clones and or weed. Always worried though of what could be brought into my room though. Seeds are the safest way imho. Heard too many stories of baddies entering the grow from a new girl being introduced. I don't want to fight that battle. I'll do a cut to bring home and clone after I've dipped and sterilized that girly, just like I do with all strange girls. LMFAO
 
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