Heaths Flooded Tube Vertical

iloveit

iloveit

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FLoJo

FLoJo

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the angles of the pipe is not what keeps the DO levels high in the nutrient mixture.. it does probably put a small amount back in but not much.

the angled pipes with the spillway is only to regulate the water level of the nutrient in the actual pipes.

the nutrients spilling back into the res, and the pump circulating the water is what keeps the DO levels high, but again, the DO levels can only be as high as water temperature will allow.
 
merahoon

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FLoJo said:
the angles of the pipe is not what keeps the DO levels high in the nutrient mixture.. it does probably put a small amount back in but not much.

the angled pipes with the spillway is only to regulate the water level of the nutrient in the actual pipes.

the nutrients spilling back into the res, and the pump circulating the water is what keeps the DO levels high, but again, the DO levels can only be as high as water temperature will allow.
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I didn't ask the question but thanks for the info ;)
 
whitenugz

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FLoJo said:
the angles of the pipe is not what keeps the DO levels high in the nutrient mixture.. it does probably put a small amount back in but not much.

the angled pipes with the spillway is only to regulate the water level of the nutrient in the actual pipes.

the nutrients spilling back into the res, and the pump circulating the water is what keeps the DO levels high, but again, the DO levels can only be as high as water temperature will allow.
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Thats what I will be trying to reach. The max potential of all the variables. Just the pump alone is suffecient? From what i read the actual speed of the water flow is what heath emphasized as a huge DO contributor. I get the water level but i'm concerned about obtaining the correct water flow. The answer to my question could just easily be. Yes, the water pump provides enough DO. I just don't want to lose a crop halfway through when the DO is necessary with the large root mass.
 
Thundercat

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Deffinitly net pots. My question is has anybody seen heath? Did I miss the last update, seems like its been awhile.
 
Thundercat

Thundercat

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Ah ha, I did miss the update, I just went back a couple pages, and found it. Damn 64 oz, thats insane. Great job man!! NOt that you need to hear that, lol.
 
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bigbuddc

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Heath, Im new to all of this but really amazed at what you've managed to do here. :clap: The only thing Im confused about is if you system is 360 degrees around your light how in the world do you get inside the thing to service it :wall: ?!?! Any help with this would be great as I've been racking my brain with this one :dunce: .
 
Heath Robinson

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farel2, InvestInMe, Xan2, FLoJo, Old Frog, greenfirekilla420, LoudBlunts, Xan2, dutchfunkle, HappySack, justinbars, dutchfunkle, Kush28, KS, loki will kill you, nadinamirror, hydrotech364, vicbudz and last but not least Thundercat thanks to you all for looking in and keeping the tread going I appreciate it. :mrgreen:



iloveit, my favourite grow method is probably top feed or flood & drain they are both simple to run and set up and both give very good yields.

I dry at a relative humidity of approx 62 and temps of approx 72, the stems should crack rather than bend when fully dry, the buds also need to feel dry to the touch but obviously not too dry that they crumble to dust, a humidity of 62 helps prevent this.

The Wilma system is very good, if you are using clay pebbles I would recommend using the high flow drippers that come with it (the blue ones) as the higher flow rate gives better results. If you place a small pump in the res it helps to increase the dissolved oxygen (DO) and keeps things mixed up nicely, and I have my res temps at around 19C.




trapper, the flow into the system is controlled by using a bypass in the res, on the pipe which comes from the output side of the pump I have a "T" fitted. One side of the T feeds the system the other has a valve fitted (doesn’t matter what type) if I open the valve some of the water from the pump goes back to the res so I have full control over how much flow enters the system.



If you look at this picture you can see the pump at the bottom right, then there is a "T" look to the left and you can see the valve with a green circle, in the picture the valve is half way open, so the pump is recirculating some of the liquid directly back to the res. If I fully open the valve the flow to the vertical is reduced simply because more of the water is recirculated. If I close the valve no water is recirculated and the full output of the pump is sent to the vert. (I hope the picture explains it better than I did! lol).




Hi whitenugz, The system is only fully cleaned at the end of each harvest, throughout the grow I simply empty the res once a week and refill with fresh nutrient solution. Because the system runs with flooded tubes the nutrient is a partial change because I don’t drain the tubes. At the end of the grow I simply pull out the roots which is very easy as they come out intact and then swill it out with a hosepipe.

A rule of thumb I use on my grows is to run the flow fast enough to exchange the water at least 5 times per hour. In the vertical the water is flowing through at a rate of at least 2000 litres per hour, the faster the flow rate the more DO you will have. Have a look at my answer to Trapper about how the flow rate is controlled hopefully that will answer it for you.

The water runs 24/7, it has to as it is the only means of providing the necessary DO.




bobhope1925, Yes that’s a good way of doing it, I have an Aeroflo system which works in the same way and it works perfectly. I also looked at the nft spiral and built a small section to test it and again it worked fine. The only thing you have to do is put a small tail of spreader mat or something hanging out of the bottom of the net pot to allow water to wick up to the plant until the roots are long enough to reach down to the water flow.




merahoon, the only thing I have changed this time round is I have put in larger cuttings, other than that the system seems to be working very well. So any modifications I do will be minor.




vicbudz, the netpots are 3".




Hey bigbuddc, I climb into the vertical where the pipes step down to the next level, this is easy to do when the system is empty and the plants are small but not easy at the end! In the pic you can see the low part where I climb in.





Ha Ha cheers OldRookie, good to see you here!.




No update today as I forgot my camera! but everything is running fine, I will try put some new pics up on thurs or fri
 
phoenix58

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Heath, you never fail to amaze me! I'll take a look at your Black Rose grow now :-)

Glad you're here at Rollitup, I'm wondering how many other ex HG420 members have found thier way here?

Great thread.
 
HappySack

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Heath, could you address the question about the size of the system, if one were to use a 1kw light?
I was thinking about entering the system. Starting @ the top tube. The top tube runs, say half way around, drops to the next tube, which reverses 180'. That tube runs all the way back around, drops, and reverses 180'back to the where the top tube dropped, and so on until the bottom tube. Then an opening could be created.
Is there a ceiling on the system?
Could you go into more detail about the ventilation of the system?
 
merahoon

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Yeah I was curious if we could get dimensions if your willing to give that up. I could figure out the pipe but I can't figure out how you set up your framing? And I apologize if you mentioned this earlier but how do the plants not drown by being filled an inch above the bottom of the net pot. Is it because you have so much DO they can breath? And what size cutting do you use now?
 
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