Heat question.

edwardvanhalen123456

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Hey guys, I'm looking into getting a 300 watt led light.
I am using 3 of those big cfl's right now and I want a good light because it just takes too long to grow a plant with cfl's.

It's usually around 76 degrees in my closet. Do you guys think it will get a lot hotter if I did get an led?
 

Foothills

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I must stop my practices now of being a botonist. I fear the smell may be too great for my child's little lungs".


What about your little child, Eddy ? Good to see we haven't lost one of our founding fathers yet. You must be very proud of yourself.
 

butterbudface

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Hey guys, I'm looking into getting a 300 watt led light.
I am using 3 of those big cfl's right now and I want a good light because it just takes too long to grow a plant with cfl's.

It's usually around 76 degrees in my closet. Do you guys think it will get a lot hotter if I did get an led?
not really, cfls put off quite the bit of heat
 

Rayne

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With air circulation, my small( 21" x 21" x 54") grows space does not get hotter than maybe 80 degrees Fahrenheit. My small space heater kicks on when the grow space is cooler than about 78F.

At the moment, I have a passively cooled four COB LED array at the top of my grow space.
 

edwardvanhalen123456

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With air circulation, my small grows space does not get hotter than maybe 80 degrees Fahrenheit. My small space heater kicks on when the grow space is cooler than about 78F.

At the moment I have a passively cooled four COB LED array at the top of my grow space.
Hello, Thanks for the reply. Ya I'm making sure I keep a good circulation going. I just don't want to get an led that could possible raise my temp by a lot.
 

Rayne

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Hello, Thanks for the reply. Ya I'm making sure I keep a good circulation going. I just don't want to get an led that could possible raise my temp by a lot.
Heat is a bigger issue if you went with a high pressure sodium and metal halide grow light. Cannabis likes 78-80 degrees fahrenheit during the day time hours and about 10 degrees cooler during the night.
 

TacoMac

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Heat is a bigger issue if you went with a high pressure sodium and metal halide grow light.
That's actually not true.

You simply buy the tube fixture like this:


with a fan and ducting and it's not a problem at all.

Conversely, they don't make tube fixtures for LED's yet, so no matter what you do you're going to be pumping 100+ degree air directly into the tent with an LED fixture.

HPS in the proper fixture is much, much cooler running in a tent than any LED is.
 

churchhaze

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Hey guys, I'm looking into getting a 300 watt led light.
I am using 3 of those big cfl's right now and I want a good light because it just takes too long to grow a plant with cfl's.

It's usually around 76 degrees in my closet. Do you guys think it will get a lot hotter if I did get an led?
300W of dissipation will produce 300W of heat.
 

edwardvanhalen123456

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300W of dissipation will produce 300W of heat.
I'm running 3, 68 watt cfl's. So thats 204 watts. If my cfl's get my closet up to 80 degrees than it seems like the led would put out less heat.
Plus you have to put it around 12 inches above the plants. Do you think this will decrease my temperature if I switch to cfl, because that would be great.

Thanks for the reply.
 

edwardvanhalen123456

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Heat is a bigger issue if you went with a high pressure sodium and metal halide grow light. Cannabis likes 78-80 degrees fahrenheit during the day time hours and about 10 degrees cooler during the night.
Ya my buddy used them and they also take a lot of electricity to grow. His light bill went way up.
That's one of the main reasons why I'm going to probably switch to led.
 

sunni

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"Hello everyone. I have been a dedicated and loving founder of this company and it saddens me to have to turn my back on everyone.
I must stop my practices now of being a botonist. I fear the smell may be too great for my child's little lungs".


What about your little child, Eddy ? Good to see we haven't lost one of our founding fathers yet. You must be very proud of yourself.
Place
Him on ignore
 

Airwalker16

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That's actually not true.

You simply buy the tube fixture like this:


with a fan and ducting and it's not a problem at all.

Conversely, they don't make tube fixtures for LED's yet, so no matter what you do you're going to be pumping 100+ degree air directly into the tent with an LED fixture.

HPS in the proper fixture is much, much cooler running in a tent than any LED is.
You're high...
 

TacoMac

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I'm running 3, 68 watt cfl's. So thats 204 watts. If my cfl's get my closet up to 80 degrees than it seems like the led would put out less heat.
Plus you have to put it around 12 inches above the plants. Do you think this will decrease my temperature if I switch to cfl, because that would be great.

Thanks for the reply.
You have to be careful here.

There's a considerable difference between a bulb drawing 68 watts of current and a ballast that powers a grid of 60 LED's that's being cooled by a fan driven heat sink.

The blanket statement of "300 watts of heat is 300 watts of heat" is, at best, a bit on the dubious side.

If you go back to that Galaxy Hydro 300 I mentioned earlier, it is going to produce a good deal more heat than your 3 CFL's presently do. The reason is two fold: Not only does it have 60 different 5 watt lights giving off heat, it also has the ballast running it that's drawing the 135 watts of current it takes to light up those LEDs to begin with.

In the end, you're going to have to face one reality: More light = more heat. If you're growing in a closet and/or a tent, you're going to HAVE to vent it, and not only for the heat. You've still got to keep fresh air circulating for decent plant growth as well.

In your case, ventilation is your number one issue. The lighting you choose is secondary.
 

MeGaKiLlErMaN

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Well that depends on how much PPFD youre running, Im at a solid 800PPFD and I now run at 86F because thats the most efficient photosynthesis zone for me. The graph numbers at the botton right at degrees in C.
Temp graph2.jpg
 
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