Health Canada Says He Has To Smoke It: Six-year-old Not Allowed To Use Cannabis Oil

leaffan

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I elaborated a little in the hope that it helps. I sure wasn't targeting you in my response. My concern is more with the people who sell us out, the way they do it, and the price we suffer for it.

It's not always easy conveying these things either. Right now is the easiest time to hold trudeau's feet to the fire. He won't need us later. Right now is the worst time to take the pressure off of him for it.
That I understand. I agree, keep the pressure on them on this issue.
They did take a stand on the abortion issue, so I see taking a stand on this as being achievable.
 

particle

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Glad to see those folks doing whats best for their child...fuckin ridiculous. Rules set by alcohol drinking idiots. Booze imbiber's that know SHIT ALL about weed or oil or even their own fuckin asses. Good for those parents.
If you drink or ever have...you got nothin to say about weed.
I dunno. I read that and I see a propaganda pill for "Standardization", which isn't, with an easy to swallow coating of "but the LP's are bad".

That crap about their extract tested so they can be assured of dosages? Purity, sure, but dosage? For a CBD product no less? That's so far off the mark that it should be throwing up warning bells all over.

And if it weren't about that? Then "doing what's best for their child" would consist not of "standard and tested doses from the trusted LP's", or some complete bullshit strain for kids that's named after one just to sucker gullible parents in. They'd be vegging a few of their own plants, even teaching their kid how to grow it for himself, and they'd be tossing it in the juicer, fresh each day, better than any LP product could ever be.

That, to me, is doing right by their kid. Not advancing some pharmaceutical trojan horse for standardized dosing of a drug that doesn't benefit from it, because all things "children" is the ultimate thought terminating cliche.
 

leaffan

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Glad to see those folks doing whats best for their child...fuckin ridiculous. Rules set by alcohol drinking idiots. Booze imbiber's that know SHIT ALL about weed or oil or even their own fuckin asses. Good for those parents.
If you drink or ever have...you got nothin to say about weed.
Uh...I drink and I think I have a right to talk about weed.
Not fair to paint everyone with the same brush.
 

particle

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Uh...I drink and I think I have a right to talk about weed.
Not fair to paint everyone with the same brush.
Yeah, there's such a thing as a responsible drinker, just like there is such a thing as an irresponsible weed user. I think I want to hear from the responsible users more than anyone and everyone else can stfu.

Cheers
 

The Hippy

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Uh...I drink and I think I have a right to talk about weed.
Not fair to paint everyone with the same brush.
I'm just saying that people who drink are no better than we are. And I'm sick of people who do drink poo pooing weed recreationally or medically. I drink occasionally as well. Not against it, just saying it's the same thing...an intoxicant. I can't seem to get any drinkers to admit that thought....They just ignore this question and move on to another subject.
 

The Hippy

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Yeah, there's such a thing as a responsible drinker, just like there is such a thing as an irresponsible weed user. I think I want to hear from the responsible users more than anyone and everyone else can stfu.

Cheers
Irresponsible weed user...as in how...curious
 

The Hippy

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I dunno. I read that and I see a propaganda pill for "Standardization", which isn't, with an easy to swallow coating of "but the LP's are bad".

That crap about their extract tested so they can be assured of dosages? Purity, sure, but dosage? For a CBD product no less? That's so far off the mark that it should be throwing up warning bells all over.

And if it weren't about that? Then "doing what's best for their child" would consist not of "standard and tested doses from the trusted LP's", or some complete bullshit strain for kids that's named after one just to sucker gullible parents in. They'd be vegging a few of their own plants, even teaching their kid how to grow it for himself, and they'd be tossing it in the juicer, fresh each day, better than any LP product could ever be.

That, to me, is doing right by their kid. Not advancing some pharmaceutical trojan horse for standardized dosing of a drug that doesn't benefit from it, because all things "children" is the ultimate thought terminating cliche.
I was referring to bypassing the law and using the oil anyway. Not the testing part...no opinion on that.
 

particle

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I was referring to bypassing the law and using the oil anyway. Not the testing part...no opinion on that.
I assume as much as well, but I have to speak to the overall article, and the affect it will have being worded as it is.

The very fact that you can say that, for example, kind of proves my point. Not that you're wrong in that observation either, and I don't disagree with it. I just think that in light of the article and its wording, it's too much to overlook, and a bit of a trojan horse, as they conflate competing issues unnecessarily.

Do they need LP's to get their kid what it needs to function normally? No.
Should LP's offer a high quality, trustable extract. Well, yes. Can they? No. They can't even meet that mark of quality with the weed by itself to begin with.

I resent the discussion when it's framed in that light as well, as is typically done with "charlotts web", the makers of which kicked off this campaign with which to enriching the LP's further. My mom doesn't know jack shit about weed btw, but she knows "charlott's web", and that it's good treatment for children who need it, because "getting high is bad (oh yea and it's actually pretty effective too)". Why? CNN. Why else? Because it's a fraud by a couple of self serving activists who are monopolizing information to commodify the sick for their own profit. The end result is of course that "getting high is still bad" and still a reserved monopoly for pharmaceuticals.

If they really wanted to help these poor fuckers, they'd empower them with the information they've been withholding, and telling them to grow it for themselves. It's embarrassingly easy to veg, and that's all they gotta do before stuffing it into a juicer. Any strain will do. Every strain will do! No. No that's too rich. "Move across the country...come and live on our compound. We'll market you to the media as prisoners of prohibition."

So I have to ask, at the end of the day, is really beneficial for the majority of people for these so called activists, so prominent in the media's eye, to adopt its fucking propaganda against us in the first place? That's just another one of those "fatal compromises", for a temporary niche, which at the end of the day, won't be left in their hands anyway. But you know, "thanks for establishing the requirement of a trustworthy pill format".

So, where did these parents get the impression that CBD rich extract needed to be metered exactly. Who told them that shit that it should be the basis of an article about their struggle for it? Would the negative side effects suddenly outweigh the perceived benefits if it was off at all? If it was an accidental double dose, would the kid suddenly get high, on CBD's that you can't get high on, and if they did, would it ruin their lives measurably? Is it only beneficially effect in some narrow window? It flies in the face of all that we factually do know of it. It's fucking ridiculous. Sorry but LP's aren't necessary for that when it isn't required in the first place.

I think there is a push for the LP's to be able to offer these extracts, but as we've seen that's zero assurance of quality in any respect that really matters. Mind you, it's a fucking dirty industry, and it needs regulating. It's just a shame there's nobody competent enough to do it properly. My concern is they'll gladly use that to keep them prohibited, while so called activists use it for running trains, 200 gram hot boxes for hot dog stands, and sending their victims to the hospital with it because they used it for marketing dangerous products that isn't fit for public use, and all because their party without any consequences never stops.
Maybe they could also make available an idiotic means of producing it, that can only explode. What could go wrong. Party in a can.
 

OKLP

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I agree, keep the pressure on them on this issue.
They did take a stand on the abortion issue, so I see taking a stand on this as being achievable.
According to statements that I have seen made by JT himself on video, the reason for the apparently solid stance the Liberals will be taking on the "abortion issue", is for CHOICE/FREEDOM.

I am inferring from this, and his "Nanny State" comment, that the Liberals will be taking a similar stance on other issues, such as our often maligned yet very useful plant. Imagine the billions and billions that could be saved if the government would just butt out of certain areas of our private, and particularly out of our MEDICAL lives!

Add to this, the repeated blundering by most of the current LP's...

Vote for whoever you choose, but PLEASE VOTE!
 

particle

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According to statements that I have seen made by JT himself on video, the reason for the apparently solid stance the Liberals will be taking on the "abortion issue", is for CHOICE/FREEDOM.

I am inferring from this, and his "Nanny State" comment, that the Liberals will be taking a similar stance on other issues, such as our often maligned yet very useful plant. Imagine the billions and billions that could be saved if the government would just butt out of certain areas of our private, and particularly out of our MEDICAL lives!

Add to this, the repeated blundering by most of the current LP's...

Vote for whoever you choose, but PLEASE VOTE!
yeah that's tempting but iiiiii dunno. aka, bullshit. There's so much more meat to be had these days when it comes to a pending nanny state (lol).... how about domestic surveillance for one. Trudeux commented on that at all? How about having him comment on that IN RELATION to marijuana usage or growing? Woah.... that'd 'be uncharted waters for him wouldn't it. I'll say it right now, he wouldn't fucking dare, and we'll never see the day.
 

OKLP

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So, where did these parents get the impression that CBD rich extract needed to be metered exactly. Who told them that shit that it should be the basis of an article about their struggle for it? Would the negative side effects suddenly outweigh the perceived benefits if it was off at all?.
I can answer this, at least for one case that I know the family. They were advised by a doctor in California, who has worked with Charlotte Figi, to use only oil that was tested indicating as close to o% THC as possible, and that from this doctor's experience, THC could trigger seizures.

I am paraphrasing, but that summarized my understanding gained from the family, who has seen miracle results from high CBD oil.
 

OKLP

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If the govt wants to waste time watching me water some legal plants, I hope they will at least be nice enough to remind me when they need watering ;)
 

OKLP

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I'm sure he is stretching the truth every which way, he's IS a politician after all. Though at this time, they seem to be the only party with a chance of forming government that's even willing to talk about cannabis.
 
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