Health Canada Reports Less Than 18,000 patients buying from mmpr per month

torontomeds said:

Actually LP weed is just as likely to be sprayed. Anyways do you work for a LP? seems like it the way you talk. I have tried almost all the LPs weed and it is shit, I would rather pay a litter more in the streets and get something I can see up front. The best weed I had this year was 120 a oz and it was pink kush outdoor. All natural, not sprayed heck it was only hit with nutes once. super clean bud.

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jump in your car and drive 2oz a week to calgary bro, i'll give you $160
lololololol

BC is not calgary
toronto is not calgary

you got some friend with 79lbs of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA every day he sells for only $150/zip?
cool!!!!!!!! I'll give you my number and I'll buy 2zips from him every week. since everyone has the best connect for the best weed ever and they are the best guy in the world I am sure I'll have 25 messages in my inbox to help a bro out...

I feel your pain, but all I am saying is LP weed is shit, I also got shit weed at a CC the other day, BUT, for the most part I can get fire, the outdoor came and went, right now I am paying 200 a zip when I buy. Bottom line grow your own.

I have had
Tweed
Bedrocan
Redecann
whistler med
medcan trust
peace naturals
organigram
med releaf
tillray
apheria

I have tried almost every strain from the above and did not find one strain good for my med needs.

I spent a few dollars trying to find a strain from a LP. Fuck LPs

dta-dave said:

I dont have a super solid stance on almost anything here, so no one get too upset about my posts.

I'm trying to learn some shit and figure out the best way to go forward, without any bullshit.

The guy that told me about MMPR is a huge hippy, that deals with tons of real deal hippys from BC on a daily basis.
I'm talking the type of hippys that you can smell a girls pussy from 6+ feet away because shes super granola or wtvr (my buddy girlfriends words, not mine) anyways he is the guy where I got most of my info, told me about mmpr, and the doc to go see - So I assume he will always know more than me.
The main 2 points are that if you get MMPR now before legalization, then you will not have to pay that additional tax moving forward.
And hes saying blue cross will cover up to 80% like any other medicine. So if that pans out true, it should turn out cheaper than a CC, and if it gets people medicated before the J is over, and they dont see tons of bug shit when rolling a J.

Personally, I will try to find a CC and will refill from there going forward like the good law abiding pleb or whatever you want to say that I am. But a lot of business owners and people I know with kids or people that simply want to avoid any problems won't be open to that since it is not approved by MMPR, and they wont get 80% back.

I think LP's and MMPR is probably just a testing tool for distribution for legalization to set people up to pay $15-20/gram for rec use.
The price has already been set at $10/gram by the BM, I hardly doubt they are going to try to undercut the BM.
They are going to make super strict laws like the US for operating outside of their super taxed rec program or MMPR.

You can say wtvr the hell you want, and use whatever basic fallacy arguments you want to call names for following what seems to be a carrot on a stick to legality, no rec tax, and 80% return via benefits when the only other option presented is pay fully out of pocket via the BM, and possible get hit with huge taxes when it is legalized, and possible LEO action.

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You can claim at income tax time but you have to spend a min of 10% of your income to get anything back. Until the gov gets off its ass and forces a drug identification number insurance wont pay for shit.

torontomeds said:

I have had
Tweed
Bedrocan
Redecann
whistler med
medcan trust
peace naturals
organigram
med releaf
tillray
apheria

I have tried almost every strain from the above and did not find one strain good for my med needs.

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Ive had a few that were decent but at 3x the cost of street value its a no brainer to say f that.

torontomeds said:

I feel your pain, but all I am saying is LP weed is shit, I also got shit weed at a CC the other day, BUT, for the most part I can get fire, the outdoor came and went, right now I am paying 200 a zip when I buy. Bottom line grow your own.

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I asked if you said that LP's are spraying weed with butane or something else and making dabs out of it, not for all that other shit

torontomeds said:

I spent a few dollars trying to find a strain from a LP. Fuck LPs

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What are you looking for in a strain?

Is this whole place just a circle jerk of hating on LP's.... after you try EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT they sell????
wtf do you think this attitude is going to achieve?

Someone asking about getting good weed today, tell them to setup an illegal grow and have weed in 60+ days?!?!?
someone in a place of the country with shitty weed? tell them about the 100 dispensaries in a different province and BM weed that is 10x the quality and 50% of the price.

Dudes, Alberta is not BC.
Alberta is not fucking Toronto.

When I say SPRAYED.
I MEAN THEY STUFF WEED IN TUBES
SPRAY IT WITH BUTANE TO MAKE DABS
DRY THE WEED OUT SO IT LOOKS GOOD
and the whole fucking bag wont get you high.

instead of busting it up, and getting a bit more dabs and throwing the weed away, they get a bit less dabs, and sell the weed for a bit of a discount $150-180/z

you can budbust the whole ounce in a grinder, pack a bowl of crystal, and then sneeze.
a bowl of crystal = a sneeze

I think its absolutely INSANE how you go around saying how these LP's are going to have tons of bug shit and other stuff in it.
EVEN IF YOU ARE RIGHT you are hurting any home grower that exists.
Anything you say- can, and will be used against you, and everyone else.

You talk about HEALTH CONCERNS from a GIANT MM $ FACTORY with TONS of money in ENGINEERING and other shit to have a clean facility to produce medicine for medical patients (if medical patients are buying it is a whole different story, IF it is clean is a whole different story)
You have to realize any time you point a finger at something, you will have 3 pointed back.
How can all these limited income med patients with a true need afford additional ANYTHING to ensure it is clean?

Look at it a DIFFERENT WAY.
In the eyes of the gvt, how can they let people grow their own medicine if it is already difficult to do in a big facility with millions invested?

Hay, I'd love to setup a grow and not have to worry about some gang with guns kicking down the door and taking my shit because someone else I dont even know claims what I am doing is wrong. But I really don't see that happening, I see the gvt fucking everyone they can.

Theres no way they will let the average person grow, or every MMPR patient, absolutely no way.
They want the tax money
they want to stop OC
I'm sure basically everyone already has a really good idea how this is going to happen.
super strict laws outside of the program, super high taxation, only available at certain places, 18+

The only thing left to be seen is when it happens, the degree to which we are fucked, and if they choose to fuck everyone from the beginning to the end.
I could totally see the gvt stopping all the old grows and giving them free medicine or something just to ensure people are not selling extra, or to shore up any OC/BM money.

johny sunset said:

What are you looking for in a strain?

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something that can actually work as medication..
.something that actually hasn't been sprayed.
something that is actually affordable...

oh ya...that's right... You're talking LP shwag again.

That's not possible!!!

dta-dave said:

your telling me LP are stuffing full buds in tubes and spraying it with butane or something and making dabs out of it?
or do you mean spraying with something else and you didnt fully read what I wrote?

All the LP weed I seen and smoked, however junky, and overpriced, and dry as a month old muffin still managed to get me medicated before the joint was through.

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He's talking about harsh pesticides and fungicides, some of which are untested on smoking crops (most all actually). Butane isn't particularly awful for you except that it's explosive/burns and has no nutritional value. It is not a carcinogen though unlike many other things. It is used for pharmaceutical grade extractions all the time (of course, this doesn't mean from a tube used for lighters - those have other things in them).

johny sunset said:

What are you looking for in a strain?

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Well in a nut shell something on par with the ecsd (the real ecsd) or the uptown haze. or a super stank skunk.
More or less, I need something that has a long lasting after taste, on the gas,skunk side of the terps, I could care less about looks, but I want it to smell dank and I want it to taste like it smells, maybe I am just spoiled, but I would go to NYC every other week for work and I would get zips of haze and sour and it was the best weed. I found that at some point past 2004-2005 the weed I like kind of dissapeared and was replaced with kush and shit they call haze but it is just shit weed to me.

I like when I smoke and like 2 hours later I can still clearly taste the bud. I need that kind that you can smell thru anything. I think people stopped growing the dank up here because they kept getting busted for smell.

nobody important 666 said:

You can claim at income tax time but you have to spend a min of 10% of your income to get anything back. Until the gov gets off its ass and forces a drug identification number insurance wont pay for shit.

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I was pretty sure this was the case, but I haven't had any experience one way or the other.

westcoast420 said:

Recently, Health Canada reported that less than 18,000 people bought from licenced producers in the month of August. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/canadian-bankers-still-view-marijuana-businesses-with-caution/ar-AAfNrDW?li=AA54rW&ocid=mailsignout
So much for the Cons projected 500,000 people in 10 years from the new program. Old program had almost 50,000 patients and new program only 18,000 people, and in that month the average grams purchase per patient was roughly 33 grams. hahahaha what a joke, that right there is what the kids call an Epic Fail!!

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594 kilos in a month for an entire nation?

Did y'all forget to exhale or something?!

Seriously, that wouldn't supply Denver for a weekend, WTF!

Looks like the boycott is working. Power to the potheads!

What I'm hearing is that I really need to move to Alberta and help supply the market.

...BACK to Alberta, that is. I was born there, after all.

welcome shill dave...

Have a schillastic xmas

OGEvilgenius said:

He's talking about harsh pesticides and fungicides, some of which are untested on smoking crops (most all actually). Butane isn't particularly awful for you except that it's explosive/burns and has no nutritional value. It is not a carcinogen though unlike many other things. It is used for pharmaceutical grade extractions all the time (of course, this doesn't mean from a tube used for lighters - those have other things in them).

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Let's not forget they irradiate. Something they've never done tests/studies on(inhalation of a combusted irradiated product). Bye bye terpenes

CalyxCrusher said:

Let's not forget they irradiate. Something they've never done tests/studies on(inhalation of a combusted irradiated product). Bye bye terpenes

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I thought they only had to do that if the pesticides and fungicides did not work?
But yes, that too.

My understanding is the way they are required to store and the RH they are required to use means that the terps are guaranteed gone by the time you get the product anyway. Curing is a biological process. My guess is that is not allowed by HC. I haven't read the regulations about that specifically, but you hear things from time to time from somewhat credible folks that can be worth repeating if only because it's mostly harmless. And I've seen some containers they send meds out in and they are definitely not airtight.

Something about low humidity environments required for storage due to concerns about mold.

Anyway, they are not putting out good product currently and that's really the bottom line.