Haze Harvest - a few pounds of 1200w vertical weed

Prawn Connery

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Here are some photos of my Stinky Catpiss Haze just before harvest. The first couple are two haze plants vertically scrogged around 1200w of light. You can see one 600w HPS up top - there's another down below, hidden in the middle of the circle of plants (you can just make it out in the first photo). The hazes are left and right - there's a little indica plant in the front middle, and a couple more behind (which I'll get to in a minute).









The next two photos are close-ups of typical Stinky Catpiss buds, showing a bit of crystal and the haze-like structure. The high is like a rocket-ship - you start soaring as soon as you breathe out, and feel your heart pounding faster as you just get higher and higher. Apart from the initial physical rush, it's all in the head as it continues to take you up. This is a favourite day-time smoke around here - clean, functional and active. It lasts a good time, too.

I call it "Stinky Captiss Haze" because that's what it smells and tastes like: catpiss and sour lemon fuel. It's one of the stickiest, oiliest plants in my collection and is a Nevile's Haze cross with a mystery indica. It's haze dominant but only takes 10 weeks to completely finish.






 

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Here is one of the hazes (the one on the left in the above photos) after taking it out of the flowering chamber (behind). This plant will produce about 12+oz of dried, manicured haze. The haze plants I grow in this set-up yield 10-15oz each. I usually have two or three flowering at any one time, along with other strains. I can fit six to eight plants in the chamber, but the most hazes I can flower together at one time is six - they grow much bigger than most of the other strains in my rotation.

You can see the 60-litre remote reservoir on the floor with the feed tube running from the pump (inside the black nutrient tank) out and under the chamber, where it comes up through the floor.

All the plants are in 8-litre (2 gallon) pots filled with coco. I feed them on organic-based nutrients in a drain-to-waste system. I use no chemical sprays on my plants.










 

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Here are the hazes lying on top of each other on the ground (they can't support their own branches), with some previously cut plants hanging overhead. There's about a pound of bud hanging up there, consisting my favourite Swiss Bliss clone and a Calizahr x C99 - both about 8oz each when trimmed and dried.

The Swiss Bliss is just like her name: euphoric, with a sweet grape bubblegum flavour and lovely pleasant head high. You can smoke her any time of day, she's that relaxing. But she's also clear and functional - a great alround smoke. Her mother is a Swiss Sativa and she's an old F1 clone from now discontinued Paradise Seeds stock.

The CalizahrC99 smells more like sweet grapefruit with a dash of pineapple and is quite strong weed, with a pronounced heavy head and body high and an arse-kicking nature. Good for getting zonked out.

YOu can see the flowering chanber in the background. It's 4'x4'x6' high. Ventilation comes from a floor fan sitting over a hole in the bottom of the chamber (it's raised off the ground), with an exhaust fan in the roof (seen in the first photos) venting to a carbon filter on top.


 

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And here's what's left: three Calizahr x Schnazzleberry (all Chimera genetics) waiting to get the chop . . . in about a week. They went in a little later than the others, so will take longer to finish. There should be a pound or more there when they come out and get trimmed.

I have some new Schnazzleberry #2 seedlings ready to go into the chamber this weekend to start the cycle again. You can see the floor fan, lamp layout, catchment pots (pot-within-a-pot system) and plumbing in these photos. The 4mm black lines are nutrient feed (unused ones are plugged up) and the green garden hose is for drainage out into the vege patch (to make use of the waste nutrient). Everything runs through the hole in the floor which provides ventilation. Its basically provides a column of cool around the lights.










 

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M1dAmber

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Looking wonderful! I love me a good vert grow, and this one is pretty sexy.

Must have been a helluva trim job though.


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Prawn Connery

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Can you believe I fit all that shit in one tiny 4'x4' box? :eyesmoke:

That's why I love vertical scrogging - you get to use all the height you need and can grow leggy hazes and fat-arse indicas at the same time.
 
M1dAmber

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Prawn Connery said:
Can you believe I fit all that shit in one tiny 4'x4' box? :eyesmoke:

That's why I love vertical scrogging - you get to use all the height you need and can grow leggy hazes and fat-arse indicas at the same time.
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Holy god! That is pretty amazing my friend.

I really need to start up a vert scrog setup...right now I am just bare-bulb vert with no scrog.

Again, amazing job man!
 
Bigtacofarmer

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Nice job.... How did you manage to get away without any light burn? Thinking about running some 1000's vertically and I would have never consider letting them get so close.
 
Prawn Connery

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Bigtacofarmer said:
Nice job.... How did you manage to get away without any light burn? Thinking about running some 1000's vertically and I would have never consider letting them get so close.
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If you look closely you can see signs of tip burn in most of the photos, especially on the leaves closest the lights and on the indicas in the photo below. The hazes/sativas branch out and are generally easy to tie up on the fencing and keep under control. But the indicas just want to stick their fat leaves straight into the lights and have thick, brittle branches that poke out and aren't as easy to bend without breaking. I usually just remove any big fan leaves that start hitting the lights.


 
Prawn Connery

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Seems like a couple of people have been doubting my "few pounds" claim. So here is a shot of some of the near-dry bud hanging up after being cut and trimmed. I say "some" because there are four out of seven plants hanging here - the other three are still in the cabinet and will be harvested in a day or two (the indicas in the previous pix).

Each plant is separated by a peg. The longest branches are over 2 feet. Going by past yields (40+ over the 10 years I've been growing vertically), there's an average of just over half a pound (8oz) per plant. Left to right: Stinky Catpiss Haze 1, Stinky Catpiss Haze 2, Swiss Bliss, Calizahr x C99.

And to the doubters?

They don't grow vertical, so they don't know shit . . . :leaf:






PetFlora said:
PC you come across as a scholar who never grew the first plant. Head full of programming, no practical experience. An experienced grower like myself can spot the difference.
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ambedexteras

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nicely done sir. nice ass yield. did you just top it a bunch and use nutes ?
or did you use some other sort of yield boosting strategy?...cuz u nailed it lol
well done sir.

so whats the advantage to growing vertical as opposed to in a hood or something?
dont get me wrong ur set up and bud look MAD dank. but ive seen plenty of people
get those results with a hood so im just wondering.

kudos... + rep for you sir.
 
Prawn Connery

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Hazes were topped once early on (others weren't), coco run-to-waste and organic-based nutes. I must admit, I haven't seen as many 3+lb 1200w hood grows as you, but in my neck of the woods, no-one out-yields my set-up on a grams-per-watt basis. No-one who grows in coco under a hood, anyway.

Mind you, I know it can be done and a decent NFT or aero set-up should beat my coco run-to-waste (aero's a lot more efficient). But then there are other vertical growers like Heath Robinson who pull 2+g per watt using NFT/aero, and I don't think I've seen many other growers beat that. In fact, I don't think I've seen any.

The vertical style of growing was arguably made popular by krusty back in the OG days (over a decade ago) - at least that's where my inspiration came from. There was some great info on OG before the server was seized . . .

I've been meaning to write a vertical "How to" guide when I get some time, covering a lot of the issues and questions that are usually raised, but in the mean time there's a bit of info in this forum (or you can search some of my posts under "Vertical"). The main reason it works so well is it utilises nearly all 360 degrees of light emitting from each HID bulb - as opposed to bouncing 70-odd per cent of it off a reflector. It keeps heat down and maximises light.

And of course, plants love it. :weed:
 
Lemon king

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do you have to constantly rotate your plants??

did you achieve the gram per watt aim?

what size pots are you using and is that a cutting you started with.??

happy drying n curing :)
 
Prawn Connery

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The plants are vertically scrogged, so no need to turn them. That's one of the great misnomers about vertical growing - that you need to turn your plants. In reality, the plants simply grow towards the light and get really bushy on one side (indicas), or spread out and get weaved into the scrog (sativas).

I pretty much always pull a gram a watt or more. Best dried, trimmed yield so far with this setup is 56oz, which is about 1.3g/watt.

The pots are 8 litres (2 gallons) and I have a selection of clones I rotate. The Stinky Catpiss Haze always gets a run, as does the Swiss Bliss (my two favourites), my Sensi Star usually gets a run (doesn't yield well, but I try never to run out), and there are some clones I share with commercial growers in the area which get a rotation every now and then - including a very good Aussie skunk (nicknamed "Big Bud" - no relation to the commercial Big Bud) that's been around for 15-20 years.

I do a few seed runs, but there's not much that works better than the Catpiss Haze in my setup, so many strains last a couple of runs before I pass them on or let them die out. I've lost a few good clones over the years, but c'est la vie. I've also just finished a really nice cross that will be getting a few more runs after this: Aussie Skunk x Sweet Tooth/Sensi Star. Doesn't yield as well as the mother, but has a very powerful high that puts most people to sleep (literally - we've been using it for insomnia!).

So many strains, so little time and space . . .
 
Lemon king

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Prawn Connery said:
The plants are vertically scrogged, so no need to turn them. That's one of the great misnomers about vertical growing - that you need to turn your plants. In reality, the plants simply grow towards the light and get really bushy on one side (indicas), or spread out and get weaved into the scrog (sativas).

I pretty much always pull a gram a watt or more. Best dried, trimmed yield so far with this setup is 56oz, which is about 1.3g/watt.

The pots are 8 litres (2 gallons) and I have a selection of clones I rotate. The Stinky Catpiss Haze always gets a run, as does the Swiss Bliss (my two favourites), my Sensi Star usually gets a run (doesn't yield well, but I try never to run out), and there are some clones I share with commercial growers in the area which get a rotation every now and then - including a very good Aussie skunk (nicknamed "Big Bud" - no relation to the commercial Big Bud) that's been around for 15-20 years.

I do a few seed runs, but there's not much that works better than the Catpiss Haze in my setup, so many strains last a couple of runs before I pass them on or let them die out. I've lost a few good clones over the years, but c'est la vie. I've also just finished a really nice cross that will be getting a few more runs after this: Aussie Skunk x Sweet Tooth/Sensi Star. Doesn't yield as well as the mother, but has a very powerful high that puts most people to sleep (literally - we've been using it for insomnia!).

So many strains, so little time and space . . .
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interesting on the 8ltr pot size for the size off plant im a dwc farmer, but have had success with coco and am considering using it again for a new challenge and to ease me into organics eventually. im assuming that the clones were rooted and more or less flowered with not much veg to keep them in that pot size??

must say im loving the catpiss haze, looks like a nice producer, im abit worried if it tastes like the name though lol.
 
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