Hay Smell Gettin' Worse?

ukjw

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It seems the hay smell is getting worse...curing has been going on for maybe 3 weeks now and it seems to me like it has taken on more of a hay smell than anything else...is there anything do do? I let it dry for 5-7 days and i thought the stem snap was how everyone explained....1 thing is i only trimmed about 75% because its for personal use(cant smoke yet) so i wasn't worried about getting the last little bit

Its a little gold where its curing now, maybe 50 degrees and there isnt a whole lot i can do about it...also once i dig in deep it still feels a little wet
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robert 14617

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he never said he jarred it , get someone to smoke a bit of it an give you a smoke report ,roll up a pinner and tell them it was gifted from someone out of town that you trust
 

ukjw

Active Member
yea i guess ill have to do that robert

i jarred it when the stem snapped like everyone says...it doesnt feel wet or anything unless you get in real deep and its not really wet, just sticky.....ive been away from mj in general for 6 years so i dont remember much when it comes to this
 

ganjaluvr

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actually.. you DON'T want to wait until the stem actually snaps into two pieces. If you wait that long.. before you start the cure.. you've waited too long. You've let too much of the moisture content evaporate.

Read my article on 'Drying & Curing'. Link's in my signature.

You don't want the stem to actually SNAP into two pieces.. you want the stem to bend and still have some resistance. Like a spring.. you bend it one way.. and it "springs" back into its original position.. same principle. ;)

Also.. look at the size of the bud your curing. The bigger the bud.. the more moisture there will be. The more moisture the bud has (the bigger the bud) the longer its going to take for it to dry (cure).

All curing is.. is simply slowing down the "drying" process. That's all curing is.. people tend to make things harder than they really are. ;)

Good luck.

peace.
 

ukjw

Active Member
actually.. you DON'T want to wait until the stem actually snaps into two pieces. If you wait that long.. before you start the cure.. you've waited too long. You've let too much of the moisture content evaporate.

Read my article on 'Drying & Curing'. Link's in my signature.

You don't want the stem to actually SNAP into two pieces.. you want the stem to bend and still have some resistance. Like a spring.. you bend it one way.. and it "springs" back into its original position.. same principle. ;)

Also.. look at the size of the bud your curing. The bigger the bud.. the more moisture there will be. The more moisture the bud has (the bigger the bud) the longer its going to take for it to dry (cure).

All curing is.. is simply slowing down the "drying" process. That's all curing is.. people tend to make things harder than they really are. ;)

Good luck.

peace.

i didnt, just made a snap and bent...oh i only wish all the buds were that size lol....thanks for the article
 

Medi 1

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no...then how is it curing if not in jars...i assumed we all did it that way. dont think tellin friends its from someone else will get rid of the wet hay odour.


throw it back out to dry on newspaper for a day or 2 then back to the jars and make sure to burp a few times a day....not you...burp the jars....lol

and yes stem should smap not bend like other said. thats why it gets like that. it gets wetter as it goes to jars. so if not snapping may get the hay shit smell again. we have done testing on the diff ways to dry n cure and found best to be dry....not bending. if its wet it still rippens in jars then is gone to far
 

Drgreenz

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the hay smell has been something that i generally get with every cure at first. the skunkyness usually comes later as the buds really start to dry and cure. The hay smell itself is just the moisture in the center of the buds being pulled out(as ganja explained is all curing is) give it time, just like a good bbq, curing is low and slow, more time = better smoke generally speeking
 

ganjaluvr

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the hay smell has been something that i generally get with every cure at first. the skunkyness usually comes later as the buds really start to dry and cure. The hay smell itself is just the moisture in the center of the buds being pulled out(as ganja explained is all curing is) give it time, just like a good bbq, curing is low and slow, more time = better smoke generally speeking
Nicely put.

The smell that every grower is familiar with.. is a chemical. It's called Chlorophyll.. not very harmful to the smoker(s), however... its not pleasant to taste or smell for that matter. It makes the smoke very very harsh.. and gives that "burning" sensation in the smokers throat.

Chlorophyll takes time to bleed out of the buds.. so just be patient. The longer the cure.. the better the smell/taste will be.

good luck.

peace.
 

Drgreenz

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listen to ganja, not medi 1, sorry medi, the curing process is a way of forcing the buds to convert the chlorophyl and the remaining starches and any remaining glucos' into more simple sugars(starch compounds) which is why cured buds look more light green to dull brownish over simply dried buds too. Remember just because the buds are picked doesnt mean they are dead, the life processes inside them go on for days, even weeks afterward and curing really just focuses those processes into what gives us the best smoke chemically speaking.
 

ganjaluvr

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listen to ganja, not medi 1, sorry medi, the curing process is a way of forcing the buds to convert the chlorophyl and the remaining starches and any remaining glucos' into more simple sugars(starch compounds) which is why cured buds look more light green to dull brownish over simply dried buds too. Remember just because the buds are picked doesnt mean they are dead, the life processes inside them go on for days, even weeks afterward and curing really just focuses those processes into what gives us the best smoke chemically speaking.
nailed it.

nice job man..

some people just don't get it though.. ;)

peace.
 

Brick Top

New Member
listen to ganja, not medi 1, sorry medi, the curing process is a way of forcing the buds to convert the chlorophyl and the remaining starches and any remaining glucos' into more simple sugars(starch compounds) which is why cured buds look more light green to dull brownish over simply dried buds too. Remember just because the buds are picked doesnt mean they are dead, the life processes inside them go on for days, even weeks afterward and curing really just focuses those processes into what gives us the best smoke chemically speaking.
That is a little known fact, and of course is correct, but a little could be added to that, though it is not about a hay odor, just about curing. An important part of curing is to give the needed amount of time for the percentage of THC that is in a non-psychoactive form when plants are harvested and dried to become fully psychoactive, so it is also about maximizing potency and not just or mainly about flavor and odor or appearance.

The should a stem snap or bend before jarring buds question is one there is no singular answer that is correct across the board. It will depend on bud size and density and also stem size. If someone grew a sativa and has a thin fluffy bud and a thin stem and they wait for the stem to snap when bent that bud will be way over-dry. A bud like that needs to be jarred earlier/sooner when the stem bends, not breaks/snaps.

If they have a large rock solid very dense indica bud and toss it into a jar when the stem seems dry but only bends there will be a rather large amount of moisture left in the inner portion of the bud and if you do not stay on top of it and burp your jar very often you very well might lose it to mold. In cases like that a stem that actually breaks, at least to where it brakes but not like a totally dried twig but still is held together by fibers could be a better sign of when to jar.

Its something you need to become experienced at and something you need to be able to 'eyeball,' to be able to look at different crops and different buds of different types and be able to know when doing things a bit different one time or another is needed.

I pulled a bit of a joke on a friend a couple of times before letting him in on it. He was newish to growing and was having a bit of trouble drying and curing. His crops would end up over-dry and retain a hay-like odor or he would lose some or all to mold. I helped him to get the drying part down better and then I would take buds and hold them to my nose and sniff them really hard and tell him if they were still too moist or if they were ready to go into jars. He asked how I could tell if the buds were ready to be jarred or not just by smelling them and I said I am like a mule in a desert, that I can smell water. What I was really doing was putting on an act while checking bud density and stem thickness and bending the stem in a less than obvious way and together determining if they were ready to jar or not.

Two people may tell you two different ways to judge when it is time to jar and both may be totally correct .... for what they grow ... for the types of buds, sizes of buds and average density of the buds they normally deal with ... but for someone else each piece of advice that is totally correct for the one advising might be totally incorrect for the one reading/learning.

Many things about growing are carved in stone and handed down from the mountaintops and that is thee singular way of doing that particular thing correctly, but when it comes to when to jar, you really have to be able to somewhat fly by the seat of your pants.
 

Medi 1

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i guess my mass spectrometer must be wrong then in its results....what a wate of 120k....lol

what you said is exactly what i mean. and they shopuld have already relieved most of the chloraphyll before you cut...is why we also run water for a flush and get them yellowed up. if you let it continue as you say then its gone to ripe to what you wanted. and is way difficult to judge the rippening during the dry cure time


sure we all cut n do outr shit diff and i go by what the machine tells me is the highest potency for me in what cannainboids we usualy want. im working on posting some of the test results up on here soon. just getting all the shit togetehr right now. i have week by week reports to show when they have peeks in thc or othert cannabinoids...youll be surprised what week is most thc...no where near harvest time...but wont last long as a high.
 
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