Hawaii Growers

Does anyone reuse their soil or do you just use new soil for each grow? I reuse my soil but will add earthworm casing, steer manure, and chicken manure along with dolomite before reusing my soil.

Waiakeauka said:

Does anyone reuse their soil or do you just use new soil for each grow? I reuse my soil but will add earthworm casing, steer manure, and chicken manure along with dolomite before reusing my soil.

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With organic soil absolutely! I’d advise against reusing chemical grown soil... i reuse my soil, i compost it in burlap coffee sack...one of these days i'm going to grow a monster in a burlap coffee sack for shits and giggles

Cooter@666 said:

I'm using BlackGold/Sunshine Mix#4 with added dolomite,worm casting, and Big chunky perlite. (BG and SM#4 are produced my the same Co.)

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Y'all should take "Notes" from Cooter !!!!!!Right On !!I do the same and add
back my old composted material.Along with Down to Earth's line of natural dry ferts kelp meal,crab meal,ect.da Secret is OUT!

Aloha's

Punatic said:

Y'all should take "Notes" from Cooter !!!!!!Right On !!I do the same and add
back my old composted material.Along with Down to Earth's line of natural dry ferts kelp meal,crab meal,ect.da Secret is OUT!

Aloha's

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Ho Braddah Punatic great minds think a like yea! I love all the Down to Earth products, here on Oahu "Koolau Farmers" carries quite a few DtE products, not very pricey either

What you think about black gold just by itself? Its the rose one yeah? Its 9$ at ace.. I'm looking for cheapest way but best quality for my money. Just started my new job today so I can finally start getting things rolling

cirE said:

What you think about black gold just by itself? Its the rose one yeah? Its 9$ at ace.. I'm looking for cheapest way but best quality for my money. Just started my new job today so I can finally start getting things rolling

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Congrats on new job...

Thanks. After taking a year off for school, its about time lol.

Aloha once again. Having some problems again. My two plants seems to be stunted with leafs curling upwards. Also, both have purple stems, and tips seems to be burned. I think it's in the soil cause one of my neighbors gave it to me and mentioned it was a super soil mix. I think the super soil was a super bad idea. Anyways, any info would help. I did some research and was thinking dolomite? Mahalos

cirE said:

What you think about black gold just by itself? Its the rose one yeah? Its 9$ at ace.. I'm looking for cheapest way but best quality for my money. Just started my new job today so I can finally start getting things rolling

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It's good stuff, but it’s fairly inert, that’s why I like, I can control what goes into it, but it needs to be amended, If you're on a budget I would add Espoma Plant Tone, Dolomite, Perlite to the BG and use that throughout the veg cycle and scratch in an organic bloom fert during flowering (i don’t use bottled nutes so look for a dry granules fert mix)…. I use Fox Farms Tomato Veg/Espoma Plant Tone(whatever I have on hand) for veg and I use Organiacre Pure Bloom dry granules.
Good Luck and Happy Growing

808HI said:

Aloha once again. Having some problems again. My two plants seems to be stunted with leafs curling upwards. Also, both have purple stems, and tips seems to be burned. I think it's in the soil cause one of my neighbors gave it to me and mentioned it was a super soil mix. I think the super soil was a super bad idea. Anyways, any info would help. I did some research and was thinking dolomite? Mahalos

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If it's sub's cools recipe, you dont plant straight in the Super Soil because it's to hot, you have to layer the soil, i would suggest going to the organic section of this site and look for Sub's super soil recipe and read the entire post.

If you’re using the Supercoil that comes in the brown and purple bag from Home Depot, hit it with some dolomite, but you should really check the Ph of the soil first for a benchmark reading and adjust the soil as needed. Without looking at any pictures it sounds like you might have a phosphorus deficiency

Is the press sensationalizing tis story or what? Several pounds of potted plants, WTF does that mean? Last I check dirt is pretty heavy.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/138331729.html

Cooter@666 said:

If it's sub's cools recipe, you dont plant straight in the Super Soil because it's to hot, you have to layer the soil, i would suggest going to the organic section of this site and look for Sub's super soil recipe and read the entire post.

If you’re using the Supercoil that comes in the brown and purple bag from Home Depot, hit it with some dolomite, but you should really check the Ph of the soil first for a benchmark reading and adjust the soil as needed. Without looking at any pictures it sounds like you might have a phosphorus deficiency

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Yeah, but if the soil's already too hot, adding more phos will likely hurt more than help, imo. You obviously have to address the issue asap. I say to flush the hell outta the soil, but I'm not familiar with it and if that would even work with the mix. Anyone else familiar with this think flushing is a good idea?

Trichy Bastard said:

Yeah, but if the soil's already too hot, adding more phos will likely hurt more than help, imo. You obviously have to address the issue asap. I say to flush the hell outta the soil, but I'm not familiar with it and if that would even work with the mix. Anyone else familiar with this think flushing is a good idea?

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Are you retarded? If he planted into Sub's soil all he needs to do is transplant his plant into another container using the layering method. Just so you know red steams are a sign of phosphorus deficiency, meaning a lack of phosphorus, it can also be caused by the genetics of the plant, but with the information given there really is know way to tell. Do you even know why you’d flush a plant in the first place?….obviously not, but I’ll tell you anyways. It’s typically done to remove salt build up in the soil you fucking moron, if the plant was deficient in phosphorus your idiotic advice was leach out the remaining phosphorous making the condition even worse, if it were a phosphorus toxicity meaning to much phosphorus then flushing would make sense

Cooter@666 said:

Tricky,
You don’t even grow in soil so please don’t offer advice on soil, fyi you don’t flush organic soils. Until 808HI answers my questions please remain silent we don't have enough information to determine anything. If he’s using the brand named bag soil called “SUPERSOIL” flushing will only make his condition worse, they contain time released fertilizers, when you water with time released soil (including flushing) you’re releasing more nutrients into the soil, that will certainly compound the issue even further, If he’s using a Sub’s mix that 808HI got elsewhere we need to determine the Ph of the soil first, Until we get a clearer picture of 808HI's soil please shut your trap, you have no idea of what you're talking about
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Cooter@666 said:

Are you retarded? If he planted into Sub's soil all he needs to do is transplant his plant into another container using the layering method. Just so you know red steams are a sign of phosphorus deficiency, meaning a lack of phosphorus, it can also be caused by the genetics of the plant, but with the information given there really is know way to tell. Do you even know why you’d flush a plant in the first place?….obviously not, but I’ll tell you anyways. It’s typically done to remove salt build up in the soil you fucking moron, if the plant was deficient in phosphorus your idiotic advice was leach out the remaining phosphorous making the condition even worse, if it were a phosphorus toxicity meaning to much phosphorus then flushing would make sense

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Well, there is a reason I left a disclaimer and asked for anyone else's advice. I had a feeling there might be time release ferts in there, hence saying I wasn't sure. In my mind I was thinking that if the mix was too hot, adding any more salts would just worsen the osmotic exchange and cause worse burning. Kinda weird how I was just telling the new guy how cool everyone was around here and it's been anything but. All I was trying to do was help, and I believe my post was very clear that I was only injecting an idea that needed further clarification. Anyway, I don't think this thread is for me anymore, the last thing I want to do is upset people.

For what it's worth, I chopped my soil grow last week, I admit I am not anywhere your level at it, and I don't use subcool's mix (or even know what it consists of), I mainly use compost, worm castings and guano. I've been growing a 20x 12 patch of pure organic soil for years as a vegetable garden. I was trying to learn more about how you guys cultivate in soil by listening here.

Trichy Bastard said:

Well, there is a reason I left a disclaimer and asked for anyone else's advice. I had a feeling there might be time release ferts in there, hence saying I wasn't sure. In my mind I was thinking that if the mix was too hot, adding any more salts would just worsen the osmotic exchange and cause worse burning. Kinda weird how I was just telling the new guy how cool everyone was around here and it's been anything but. All I was trying to do was help, and I believe my post was very clear that I was only injecting an idea that needed further clarification. Anyway, I don't think this thread is for me anymore, the last thing I want to do is upset people.

For what it's worth, I chopped my soil grow last week, I admit I am not anywhere your level at it, and I don't use subcool's mix (or even know what it consists of), I mainly use compost, worm castings and guano. I've been growing a 20x 12 patch of pure organic soil for years as a vegetable garden. I was trying to learn more about how you guys cultivate in soil by listening here.

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Dude the bottom line is you gave flawed growing advice, and you it did by talking over me, that’s a fucking troll maneuver in my book. Usually an intelligent person who doesn’t know the answer to something would probably look up the information prior to opening their mouth vs. embarrassing themselves with misinformation like you did yesterday. If you think you’re going to come on here and discount my growing experience and all the cannabis related research I’ve done with your condescending bullshit, then you better start ducking because I’ll mentally spin kick the teeth out of your head every time you make a stupid comment. I have a sense of humor just like you do, I don’t mind chewing the fat and talking shit, but I take cannabis cultivation extremely serious along with the tried and proven advice I give people.Even after dropping some basic knowledge on you still don’t understand the difference between a deficiency and toxicity, if you knew this there would have been no reason for you to comment in the first place. If you have a hard time understanding this, then you really are mentally challenged.

I am done with this whole fuckin site!!!!

What time of the year do you guys plant your long season plants?

Where's the best place to get a card? Pops broke his leg and post operations at queens is super conservative. Does anyone have any referrals for a doctor who can help out?

Aloha to all. Thank u guys sooooo very much for all the assistance. It really means a lot. Hopefully I did not start anything with this site. I'm actually still in the process of identifying the problem and fixing it. From what I've read and people I've spoken to, I'm gonna get a soil test kit and check that first. I'll let u guys know tomorrow. Hopefully I can get some pictures up too. I know right now everyone who is offering advise to me is pretty much flying blind. Aren't we all, ain't that what it's all about. Hehe. Anyway, again, mahalo nui loa to ALL who helped. Aloha