Hawaii Growers

stoneyburd

Active Member
I know, i'm quite angry when I see open messages of hate and persecution in the name of goodness. Especially something as unethical as that as it encourages people like you and me to be rejected for jobs because of doing something which benefits debilitating conditions. They are portraying that I would not be able to do a food service job adequately enough to be hired simply because I medicate so I can eat properly, yet the food they serve causes heart attacks and kills people. You have to stop trends of hate and persecution early in society using the law to keep your children and my children in a country with everyone on equal footing.

BUT GOOD NEWS! Here is links to upcoming laws which will most likely pass, and with Gov Lingle gone and a pro medicine Gov Abercrombie in office! This is a good age to heal from rolling a bad hand on health (which happens to every kind of person in our society). Anyway, i'll try to be less grumpy, here is the good news:

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/Bills/SB58_.HTM

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/Bills/SB58_.HTM

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/Bills/SB174_.HTM

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/bills/SB175_.htm

These laws seem absolutely fair, they provide more rights to patients while doing things to keep drug dealers from trying to profit and exploit the ill utilizing the law. They don't make it at all profitable to grow for ailing patients, which is good because it will attract more people doing it for the right reasons. You don't mess around with the closest thing to a cure for cancer we got with money. (grr, i gotta back this up don't I? Excuse the interruption, but link showing proof that marijuana is the closest thing to curing cancer we have in medicine right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmQ16cGBHU and http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=8087) These changes are reasonable and just enough so we can grow our own without worrying if we lose one or two (which happens! spidermites, root fungus, lighting problems, weak genetics, hermaphrodite traits, etc). It seems to keep adequate supply at 5 ounces, when you harvest that has to last you 4 months (to grow the new ones following the rules), isn't really enough. Because if it comes out low quality which happens in all genetics, you are stuck with something that wont help your condition as much for that long. but then I think back and I realized I haven't been able to yield more than 5oz after fully dried in a long time, so it wont really affect me, but I still think that number should be higher, but it IS reasonable. All in all if these pass it would be good for real patients, and although i'm not anti people making money with something as safe as cannabis when McDonalds is allowed to sell you stuff that will kill you over your lifetime eating it, seems kinda unfair. BUt as much as many people might not like it, i'm pro cannabis being CHEAP and easy to get for patients, because insurance companies screw our nations suffering enough, we don't need to add any of that from the Medical Natural MOST EFFECTIVE Remedy as well. Now personally because it is so benign I think it should be completely legal, but looking at it from the position of the sick peoples needs first, these changes are good.

Be patient though, these laws are not in effect yet and wont be for a few months. Be safe.
Good info there tardis. however, after looking around on the hawaii state legislature website at the other bills im confused! This one in particular...

HB923 would make three licenses, one for growers, one for compassion centers, and one for edibles makers, and goes into effect 8/7/2012.

Then I look at SB1458 which is the same as HB923, BUT goes into effect 7/1/2050.

What does this mean? anybody know?

here are the two bills:

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/lists/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=923

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/lists/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1458
 

FutyreFlwo

Member
Hey how's it 808 growers. I was wondering what the majority use MH or HPS for growing pakololo in HAWAII (got to follow my brothas of the islands for unity =] ). It came with both bulbs Chee.

Mahalos everyone pics coming soon.
 

DelSlow

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Hey how's it 808 growers. I was wondering what the majority use MH or HPS for growing pakololo in HAWAII (got to follow my brothas of the islands for unity =] ). It came with both bulbs Chee.

Mahalos everyone pics coming soon.
Use the MH for the veg stage, then flower with the hps. Although you could save some $ on your electric bill and just veg with cfls/t8/t12.
 

Puna Bud

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Hey how's it 808 growers. I was wondering what the majority use MH or HPS for growing pakololo in HAWAII (got to follow my brothas of the islands for unity =] ). It came with both bulbs Chee.

Mahalos everyone pics coming soon.
what are you growing in,closet,tent ,bedroom? What wattage is your ballast & bulbs?
 

Puna Bud

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Good info there tardis. however, after looking around on the hawaii state legislature website at the other bills im confused! This one in particular...

HB923 would make three licenses, one for growers, one for compassion centers, and one for edibles makers, and goes into effect 8/7/2012.

Then I look at SB1458 which is the same as HB923, BUT goes into effect 7/1/2050.

What does this mean? anybody know?


here are the two bills:

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/lists/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=923

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2011/lists/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1458
I got a real problem with SB 923. Why the fuck the need for three separate licenses? Just more Gov. BS to charge more money
 

grassified

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I got a real problem with SB 923. Why the fuck the need for three separate licenses? Just more Gov. BS to charge more money

of course puna, did you expect anything else? its hawaii for gods sake, forget spending on stuff u want or even saving, in HI u gotta spend all your $$ on cost of living and BS taxes.

oh yeah and KK/drGT, those damn termites hit me now... youd think theyd eat all the TREES around here rather than my stems -_- maybe i should get one of those lil termite killer spikes.
 

Puna Bud

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of course puna, did you expect anything else? its hawaii for gods sake, forget spending on stuff u want or even saving, in HI u gotta spend all your $$ on cost of living and BS taxes.

oh yeah and KK/drGT, those damn termites hit me now... youd think theyd eat all the TREES around here rather than my stems -_- maybe i should get one of those lil termite killer spikes.
sorry to hear about the bad luck Grassified! What strain are those buggars chomping on? Prepare your ground accordingly. If you are doing a guerilla grow. Find your location. Go there one month before planting, treat the earth to some holiday herbs. You know the stuff mom throws in a Pumpkin Pie(dry stuff) ,clove,ginger, all spice. Throw that down with some commercial shit, like the stuff to dust tomatoes. With the months time ground is pretty much cleared of the majority of nasty pest. To get rid of them 100% is just plan wishful thinking. But keep up the good fiight my friend. Your girls will love you for it.
 

Puna Bud

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I awoke this morning knowing that I'm about one week out from harvesting some of my 'Super Lemon Haze'. But upon close examination I realized an old french friend had returned, " Monsieur Powdery Mildew'!?!@#? Because I have a set of aging eyes, this shit crept up on me yet once again. It was my general laziness that brought it on. Had I stayed religious with my weekly "Sulfar Burns", and daily treatment with "Milstop" I wouldn't be posting this!

Let me explain pics

1.) One is a lemon skunk kola from outdoors
2.) MK-Ultra genetic freaK. HOW many of you get you girls flowering right outta the seed shell?:wall:
3.) two outdoor MK-ultra X Cheese
4.) possible new property looking at for growing purposes. It's near volcano villlage. quarter acre $4900.00.
5.) Super Lemon Haze Kola cut this morning
 

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tardis

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Hey how's it 808 growers. I was wondering what the majority use MH or HPS for growing pakololo in HAWAII (got to follow my brothas of the islands for unity =] ). It came with both bulbs Chee.

Mahalos everyone pics coming soon.
Make sure it doesn't get to hot!
 

tardis

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Man that storm we had with all that non stop bright lightning in the middle of the night made me wonder if that messes up my flowering 3 girls and may turn them to hermie.. Ever seen lightning storms cause hermie.
 

Puna Bud

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shit,got pics wrong! Turtles are from my favorite beach in Hilo. On any given day these buggars come right up to you! Plus I said these turtles was the 'Super Lemon Haze' kola I cut this morning.

okay, here is the pic of my 'Super Lemon Haze'kola. some other Big Island photos too. Hope you folks enjoy. I live less than 30 minutes from Volcano!

FUCK I LOVE THE BIG ISLAND!! B.I. is NO KA OI!!!!
 

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Junya951

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Nice! That cola looks ono for sure. i cant wait to checkout the big island. Lived most of my life on oahu, now living on the mainland for college, but im thinkin about movin that way.
 

tardis

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Is there a such thing as hawaiian landraces in hawaiia
No, Hawaii is one of the only places on earth where marijuana didn't survive the travel of human kind. Marijuana did not reach Hawaii until the 1900s. Although it is such a perfect place for it to grow, and if made legal Hawaii could produce all the nations marijuana needs the way they used to do pineapples and sugarcane.
 

FutyreFlwo

Member
shit,got pics wrong! Turtles are from my favorite beach in Hilo. On any given day these buggars come right up to you! Plus I said these turtles was the 'Super Lemon Haze' kola I cut this morning.

okay, here is the pic of my 'Super Lemon Haze'kola. some other Big Island photos too. Hope you folks enjoy. I live less than 30 minutes from Volcano!

FUCK I LOVE THE BIG ISLAND!! B.I. is NO KA OI!!!!


I wish Diamond Head was still a volcano lol. I live 10 minutes away from it.
 

hup234

Member
hey guys,kind of a noob question but when would you start from seed outside to catch the long season w/out going straight to flower,thanks...
 

grassified

Well-Known Member
sorry to hear about the bad luck Grassified! What strain are those buggars chomping on? Prepare your ground accordingly. If you are doing a guerilla grow. Find your location. Go there one month before planting, treat the earth to some holiday herbs. You know the stuff mom throws in a Pumpkin Pie(dry stuff) ,clove,ginger, all spice. Throw that down with some commercial shit, like the stuff to dust tomatoes. With the months time ground is pretty much cleared of the majority of nasty pest. To get rid of them 100% is just plan wishful thinking. But keep up the good fiight my friend. Your girls will love you for it.

Strain is unknown, either KC33/danky doodle/sannies seeds killing fields (the story of the plants, i posted a few pages back, was all of my bags got ripped by cops, then i come back 3 weeks later, and 3 sprouts coming outta one of the ripped girls bags from root cloning.) I am thinking its killing fields from the smell though. They are sad looking plants! its strange, they only got 3 leafs per leaf instead of the usual 4 or 5 +. One of them already dead from the termites, I hope they perk up under the forgiving warm hawaiian sun,

ill take sum pics of the 3 leafed plants

and I like your idea with the cloves n whatnot, but now that isn't an option, gotta kill em with chemicals. Gonna get some of those termite spikes, kk could probably use some too!

guerrilla growing sucks so much, besies all the worry of the risk your taking, you come back to dead/ripped plants so much of the time :( buts its soo worth it for those few successful harvests you get.


and nice property, 1/4 acre for 5k? not bad at all! I got 8k in the bank, was seriously considering getting some land on the big island, where do you find your listings?
 
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