Hawaii Growers

I love the bud structure! Is it very sour?

I didn't even notice the webs until you said something. I always see so much more when I use my camera (I am getting so blind).

I opened my clone cabinet a month ago and it was full of mites and webbing. It is all clones and no flowers so I just hit them hard with neem and coco wet. Works every time! When I move them outside the wasps, mantids, and ladybugs all keep them clean. I only need to fight the grasshoppers and the caterpillars.

Here is a stud Mulanje XBX I have going:




Cheers,
Mo

Mohican said:

I love the bud structure! Is it very sour?

I didn't even notice the webs until you said something. I always see so much more when I use my camera (I am getting so blind).

I opened my clone cabinet a month ago and it was full of mites and webbing. It is all clones and no flowers so I just hit them hard with neem and coco wet. Works every time! When I move them outside the wasps, mantids, and ladybugs all keep them clean. I only need to fight the grasshoppers and the caterpillars.
Cheers,
Mo

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Not sure where my first reply went, so I'll type another one.
I'm pretty blind myself... Hopefully I'm not replying twice.

I can't tell you about the taste as I can't smoke, but I don't remember hearing anyone say it had a sour taste. Hmmm, I'll have to ask now. But, yea, they're super sticky, frosty, solid morsels. Strong potent old school smell in veg that changes to a citrus/tangerine kissed grapefruity scent in flower. It's a keeper. I figured if it lasted 18-19 years growing here, the rainy moldy conditions should affect it less. Handled a lot of wind stress after the greenhouse gave out, but they've done well. I'm thinking they're finishing sooner because of their stormy life though. I think there were 3 or 4 big storms they survived.

So on pot size I don't see to many big 100's of gallon pots for the Hawaii side. Seems like the Cali guys are always going for bigger and bigger. Is there a reason for this? Not enough long season sun to warrant it?
Anybody try it?

Bigger roots equals bigger fruits!

Just plant them in the magic volcanic soil and watch them get very big!

Mohican said:

Bigger roots equals bigger fruits!

Just plant them in the magic volcanic soil and watch them get very big!

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Hmmmm wish it was that simple. My area is paved by Pele for real. Lacking in soil. Lots of sun and good season of rain though

Mohican said:

Here is a stud Mulanje XBX I have going:




Cheers,
Mo

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I clicked on your photo and got taken to your photobucket pics. Wow.... What a yard. A work of art. All those different types of pots. great....

but....how do you keep your males so close to the females? Is it an illusion?

Go find an old mango grove and dig up some of that baby poop smelling slime on the ground. The blacker the better. Jackhammer a nice big hole in the lava and fill it with the jungle dirt. Test the hole first by filling it with water to see if it drains. Grow some monsters!

They are growing in the same pots. I let the seeds from last season's girls that fell on the ground, or in the pots, to grow and then I keep pulling out all but the spectacular specimens.

The Bell BX was a male and a female in the same one gallon pot!




Cheers,
Mo

Mohican said:

They are growing in the same pots. I let the seeds from last season's girls that fell on the ground, or in the pots, to grow and then I keep pulling out all but the spectacular specimens.

The Bell BX was a male and a female in the same one gallon pot!




Cheers,
Mo

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I'm picking up the bits and pieces of my blown mind...... Does not compute.... How's that work? Unless it's too drawn out to explain. Or if explained before, I'll search for it.

Of all the times I've seen your pics, I've not noticed it before.

I am just letting mother nature do its thing. Natural selection

A few SoCal growers have grumbled that I am pollinating their plants. I told them that they should be so lucky to have dank seeds from my studs!

Plus I don't know of many growers here that are flowering outside this time of year.

One of the gems from this winter - REBAR stump with one flower left:



Here are the seeded colas from REBAR x Triangle:




Cheers,
Mo

Actually I'm out midnite nanner pickin tonight cause I only have two weeks left on the last LH clones I'm going to run.
They're totally frosted out which makes those nanners stick out.

Didn't have a single hermi from the mother or C1's, C2 had a few & C3 was progressively worse. But these 6 footers were only 2 ft 6 weeks ago in 4 gallon containers.


At least they haven't caught the bot yet like the WOS NLxBB. This would have made an excellent hash plant. I sprayed neem on everything last weekend to get rid of some grey mold on a few leaves and about 4 days later had at least one patch on every branch. And the grey mold was still there! Might be good enough for spider mites, but that's it.

Sorry about the rot! The first picture is spectacular!

My first time with Malawi went to long on a cold wet winter. Huge colas with rot everywhere. I had a huge pile of colas in the compost pile. Weirdest sight ever! Three months later it was dark brown and smelled just like dirt weed!









Cheers,
Mo

808newb said:

Actually I'm out midnite nanner pickin tonight cause I only have two weeks left on the last LH clones I'm going to run.
They're totally frosted out which makes those nanners stick out.
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Didn't have a single hermi from the mother or C1's, C2 had a few & C3 was progressively worse. But these 6 footers were only 2 ft 6 weeks ago in 4 gallon containers.
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At least they haven't caught the bot yet like the WOS NLxBB. This would have made an excellent hash plant. I sprayed neem on everything last weekend to get rid of some grey mold on a few leaves and about 4 days later had at least one patch on every branch. And the grey mold was still there! Might be good enough for spider mites, but that's it.
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Hey....Looking good.
So... did you supplement lighting at all, or just let them go under the roofing I see in the pic? I think it's time I build something. The last wind storm tweaked the greenhouse structure in a few important areas. I can just see it coming down on the plants. Did you use plans for your room or design it yourself?

Aloha cola said:

Hmmmm wish it was that simple. My area is paved by Pele for real. Lacking in soil. Lots of sun and good season of rain though

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Sounds like my yard lol~

808newb said:

At least they haven't caught the bot yet like the WOS NLxBB. This would have made an excellent hash plant. I sprayed neem on everything last weekend to get rid of some grey mold on a few leaves and about 4 days later had at least one patch on every branch. And the grey mold was still there! Might be good enough for spider mites, but that's it.
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Judging by the pictures, it's way too humid in that enclosure. Also, neem shouldn't be applied as something to combat PM. Let alone applied during the later stages of flowering...

Vermicompost via top-dress or compost tea would be what I'd recommend to help with your situation, along with a lower humidity level.

Mohican said:

My first time with Malawi went to long on a cold wet winter. Huge colas with rot everywhere. I had a huge pile of colas in the compost pile. Weirdest sight ever! Three months later it was dark brown and smelled just like dirt weed!


Cheers,
Mo

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Awe man that would give me knots in my stomach to just have to toss 'em. I'm glad I dug my first run that had that rot back out of the rubbish. I finally got around to trying bho last weekend and everyone that tried it says it's a two hit toaster. It was good for me because I could actually get high. Smoke too much.

Yea, I was going to ask you bout that. The one I have has a few spots of the PM on a few leaves.

I keep them inside together with the other sativas. I think it's because it has so many freaking branches and thus more leaves, especially for a 100% sativa and also when compared to the other five all in the same identical living/growing environment. I chalk it up to just being a fem bean or the Malawi just doesn't like being fim'd. And since the last cloning endeavor three of the five regulars already showing female pre-flowers, both Colombian Golds and one of the tropical mix's
Kali Mist and the Purple Hazes are coming along tho I think leaf miners played a role in retarding the growth of one of the PH's.

I just got gifted an Ace Purple Haze! I can't wait to flower it. The leaves are so skinny!

mmjmon said:

Hey....Looking good.
So... did you supplement lighting at all, or just let them go under the roofing I see in the pic? I think it's time I build something. The last wind storm tweaked the greenhouse structure in a few important areas. I can just see it coming down on the plants. Did you use plans for your room or design it yourself?

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No, strictly mother nature. I already had a permanent structure that it serves as one of the walls and it's 15' long, but it's a work in progress. That wall is windward facing. I almost built the roof a few inches higher than and on top of the building's roof so I would have ventilation all the time but decided against it. Glad I did cause the first storm would have ripped off the whole GH roof. Rather simple an effective. Half a dozen 2x4s and 2x2s, some pal-roofing from Home Depot, and a roll of visquene(that clear plastic sheeting used to like cover concrete to cure & painters use it too) but make sure that u get the thickest mill rating for longevity. Then all u need is some screws to hold it all together. Everything I just listed I got at Home Depot btw.

HiloReign said:

Judging by the pictures, it's way too humid in that enclosure. Also, neem shouldn't be applied as something to combat PM. Let alone applied during the later stages of flowering...

Vermicompost via top-dress or compost tea would be what I'd recommend to help with your situation, along with a lower humidity level.

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Yea looks can be deceiving...2-1/2 walls. Only five of the 15 ft have a roof and plastic sheeting on the walls. Plus u can't see the big 16" oscillating fan that I have running every other half hour for a half hour 24/7 on a timer. When I do actually get the time to finish and enclose the area I will be putting a strip of screen all the way around the top and bottom and maybe frame in a box fan at the other end...as for the neem, just trying something different that's organic that's not systemic..more of a topical application. I would say that well over 90% went on the leave which I'll trash anyways. PM is the first thing listed, and botrytis as what the product is supposed to control.
What are the effects of neem on buds?

There will still be neem left on the buds after drying, I would imagine smoking that would be unpleasant. Compost tea can be made into a foliar... Pair that with neem+emulsifier (protekt etc) applications and now you'll be kicking some PM ass. Neem on its own is not nearly as effective. If anything just use neem+potassium silicate as it will not only get more mileage out of your neem but the emulsifier has benefits as well. Also, as the bottle states, it is definitely best as a preventative measure. I've had good results with neem+protekt weekly up until about the third week of flower.

As for your enclosure, it looks and sounds great. I don't recommend blowing a fan directly over your plants... Increasing transpiration rates will actually encourage PM and rot. Humidity will be one of your worst enemies during the later stages of flower where we live... I've lost a lot of weed to the humidity here and humidity is just something I'd emphasize as something to take care of for any grower in Hawaii (granted not everywhere in Hawaii is humid, sometimes the opposite...).

Also I apologize for saying you shouldn't reach for neem, that's not entirely what I meant and was bad advice. I had time to elaborate in this post~

Aloha!