Hawaii Growers

Sheckster · Feb 22, 2013

Mohican said:
Can't remember if I asked this question already. Back in 1980 a breeder gave me some seeds that were black and almost as big as a pea. When I grew them out the first true leaves had 5 leaves. Have you ever seen anything like this?

Cheers,
Mo

Funny you brought this up recently..
Here is a photo of a 3 leaf (1st set after the cotyledon) Bubba Blue (Bubba Kush x Whitaker Blues) taken today

Only the 2nd time I've encountered it after going through about 300 seeds in the last 5 years..

Next photo is one of the many strange characteristics of Alien Dog (Chem D x Alien Technology).
If you look at the leaf in the center of the photo, there is one small leaf that is sticking straight up (see 2nd photo)

Sheckster · Feb 22, 2013

kaloconnection said:
Good luck bra, gonna be crowded. Last time I went, there was a solid stream of cars coming up and down the mountain the whole drive. Families in early 90's honda's trying to charge um up the mountain too, it was fricken ridiculous! My homie sent me this pic from monday, this is what happens when you try to go up without a 4wd.

I know tons of people that took their kids out of school today to go hit em up.....

FORD808 · Feb 22, 2013

Well my two ladies met their faith early today cuz this weather is F'd up,here's a pic of a bottom branch

Highhawyn! · Feb 23, 2013

nice and solid bro, you can really tell where people live by how their plants grow

my micro climate is wet wet wet and my shit i thought i could let go another week or two needs to be pulled because we are having snowy weather! fucking bitch lol. oh well, at least i have the next batch ready to go.

@ pepperbelly, check this link out, this was my friend i was telling you with the insane above ground beds. brings back some good memories i had in that place, i just stumbled upon the thread again and almost brought a tear to my eye lol. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=61307&highlight=bidferit&page=2

other than that, rain rain rain!! cheeeehuuuu!!!! i love the rain! haha hash hits for everyone!!!

SpliffAndMyLady · Feb 23, 2013

Hey HR, those LEDs you got are impressive to say the least.

Did you build that 28 yourself? I've been waiting for those new A51 lights to pop up on their site since you sent me that link, anytime soon; March right?

dababydroman · Feb 23, 2013

howdy hawaii. does hawaii have a landrace based strain?

HiloReign · Feb 23, 2013

Thanks Spliff. I did assemble them myself. My 3rd overall fixture and I'm definitely happy with it so far. I have mostly been tinkering and experimenting so far, but in the near future I look forward to scaling up the project (250w max) and putting together some top-quality panels. I have high hopes for LEDs this year, to say the least. Also, if you find any interest in it, this thread/OP is currently (in my opinion) building the most efficient/durable panel yet seen (to grow cannabis specifically... not quite for sale in the foreseeable future...).

Eraserhead (an A51 employee) mentioned somewhere (can't find it atm) that his new models are in transit to his facility as we speak, so they will be available soon. A little information on the new 170w panel:
XPG is referring to 5watt Cree XPG diodes. XPE is referring to 3watt Cree XPE diodes.
48pcs XPG x 3.1v x 750mA = 111w
24pcs XPE x 2.15v x 550mA = 28.4w

You'll end up with about 139watts of total power, the rest for powering fans/drivers. He runs the 5watt diodes at such a low current so as to maintain longevity/efficiency.I'd stick my throat out there (as an LED enthusiast, I'm not affiliated with A51) and say that these will indeed grow some fat, greasy trees.

kaloconnection · Feb 25, 2013

Howzit. I was wondering, anybody know how to keep these little green caterpillars out of my garden? They just popped up last week and went crazy on my brocolli and I worried they gonna find my buds next. I was wondering if they are related to those moth's that are eating the koa forest in upper kaumana, came back from kona couple weeks ago at night and had thousands of them in the air and all over my windshield, then there was an article in the paper the next day. Never seen anything that bad before, was more crazy than termite season. Hope I didn't bring those fuckers to my house!

Sheckster · Feb 26, 2013

dababydroman said:
howdy hawaii. does hawaii have a landrace based strain?

Nope-
All of it has been imported here.
Probably started with the workers who were brought here to toil away in the cane fields in the mid 1800's.
I've been told by some old timers that there was another wave of strains that came in the 50's after WW2 ended.

But I think that all the Legendary Strains you hear about (ex. Kona Gold, Maui Wowie, Puna Budder, Primo Hash etc etc..) arrived here and flourished in the
very late 60's to very early 80's.. Mostly sativas were brought here from other parts of the world like Columbia, Thailand, Africa etc..
and they just grew that much better....

I don't understand all these dopes on the mainland or wherever (not Hawaii) that are buying "Maui Wowee" and thinking they are going to grow the same shit
we can grow here!!!!!
The bottom line is whatever genetics you bring here, in most cases, it will grow better than anywhere in the world.. Sure I have had strains like Deep Chunk not grow at all.. but most strains do fantastic here.. And contrary to some here, I think Indica doms grow better here too

One thing I know for sure.. there is a something different about the Big Island, (even distinct from the other Hawaiian Islands)...
Something about the Aina here.. Just a different energy... It's Pele's presence for sure....
Everything grows insane here... I'm even finding myself cutting my nails more often!!!

Sheckster · Feb 26, 2013

kaloconnection said:
Howzit. I was wondering, anybody know how to keep these little green caterpillars out of my garden? They just popped up last week and went crazy on my brocolli and I worried they gonna find my buds next. I was wondering if they are related to those moth's that are eating the koa forest in upper kaumana, came back from kona couple weeks ago at night and had thousands of them in the air and all over my windshield, then there was an article in the paper the next day. Never seen anything that bad before, was more crazy than termite season. Hope I didn't bring those fuckers to my house!

I've had a tough time over the last couple with caterpillars... lot's of damage and I always found myself picking them out of my buds as they weave their lame little cocoon and shit all over the place... eventually I figured out to move my plants within a foot of the rock walls I had in the backyard.. and the geckos took care of business...
in fact any of the caterpillars I picked off the plant were laid near the plants and the geckos started keeping an eye on things...

You'll notice when you are trying to pick caterpillars out of their cocoon, sometimes they will pull the old escape line and bail off the plant..
still connected by their string of silk about 12 below the branch.. this is an opportune time to grab the silk line and dangle the little caterpillar over a hungry gecko...

I had more damage from caterpillars in the past two years than all other pests combined..
LOL it's personal

Dr. Greenhorn · Feb 26, 2013

Sheckster said:
Nope-
All of it has been imported here.
Probably started with the workers who were brought here to toil away in the cane fields in the mid 1800's.
I've been told by some old timers that there was another wave of strains that came in the 50's after WW2 ended.

But I think that all the Legendary Strains you hear about (ex. Kona Gold, Maui Wowie, Puna Budder, Primo Hash etc etc..) arrived here and flourished in the
very late 60's to very early 80's.. Mostly sativas were brought here from other parts of the world like Columbia, Thailand, Africa etc..
and they just grew that much better....

I don't understand all these dopes on the mainland or wherever (not Hawaii) that are buying "Maui Wowee" and thinking they are going to grow the same shit
we can grow here!!!!!
The bottom line is whatever genetics you bring here, in most cases, it will grow better than anywhere in the world.. Sure I have had strains like Deep Chunk not grow at all.. but most strains do fantastic here.. And contrary to some here, I think Indica doms grow better here too

One thing I know for sure.. there is a something different about the Big Island, (even distinct from the other Hawaiian Islands)...
Something about the Aina here.. Just a different energy... It's Pele's presence for sure....
Everything grows insane here... I'm even finding myself cutting my nails more often!!!

hahahah! I totally agree with the 'uninformed' buying hawaii strains like kona gold, maui wowee, and all that other shit. if they only knew, lol. anytime i see a hawaiian name in a strain i skip right past it...

kaloconnection · Feb 26, 2013

Sheckster said:
I've had a tough time over the last couple with caterpillars... lot's of damage and I always found myself picking them out of my buds as they weave their lame little cocoon and shit all over the place... eventually I figured out to move my plants within a foot of the rock walls I had in the backyard.. and the geckos took care of business...
in fact any of the caterpillars I picked off the plant were laid near the plants and the geckos started keeping an eye on things...

Mahalo for the tip, Sheckster. I've seen geckos on my plants before and figured they were doing some regulating. It's amazing how much damage those damn caterpillars can do overnight.

kaloconnection · Feb 26, 2013

In my 23 years of living on the big island, I have never come across any of those legendary strains. I always thought it was just peoples way of saying where it was grown instead of actual strains.

A couple strains I remember that had a reputation back around the time i graduated from high school, were "the death," "Johnny D's" and this one we used to call "the moss" because it tasted real musky almost moss-like. Then in early 2000's, it was pretty flooded with white widow around East Hawaii and still seems to be a local favorite.

Anyone ever hear of these strains besides the WW?
I hear the Johnny's is still around but kept tight in the family, haven't come across it in a while cuz i havent bought weed in years but it used to be all the rage and had HUGE crystal covered pods.

Still, I think all those came from seeds someone either bought back then and renamed.

Dr. Greenhorn · Feb 26, 2013

kaloconnection said:
In my 23 years of living on the big island, I have never come across any of those legendary strains. I always thought it was just peoples way of saying where it was grown instead of actual strains.

A couple strains I remember that had a reputation back around the time i graduated from high school, were "the death," "Johnny D's" and this one we used to call "the moss" because it tasted real musky almost moss-like. Then in early 2000's, it was pretty flooded with white widow around East Hawaii and still seems to be a local favorite.

Anyone ever hear of these strains besides the WW?
I hear the Johnny's is still around but kept tight in the family, haven't come across it in a while cuz i havent bought weed in years but it used to be all the rage and had HUGE crystal covered pods.

Still, I think all those came from seeds someone either bought back then and renamed.

never heard of the other strains. WW definitely, lol, but the others, no.. anyone heard of 'bloodweed' back in the day? also "deisel" was common on maui and was some of the best shit i smoked in my life. all i see now is sour deisel. also 'elephant' was another weed i always here about from the old timers.

kaloconnection · Feb 26, 2013

haha, last time I bought weed my friend called it the 18-wheeler, but it was really just some sour diesel.

Mohican · Feb 26, 2013

Mmmmmmm - I remember elephant! I also remember my first Hawaiian buds. They were the size of marbles and covered with bright red hairs. I took my first hit and just burnt off the hairs and I was instantly high. Six months later I was on Maui smoking some mountain grow red hair. The best I ever had was some of Duke's Kauai bud - right on the edge of halucinating. I want to move back and become a farmer up on the hill on Maui. Keep up the good work and get political and legalize MJ!

Cheers,
Mo

dababydroman · Feb 26, 2013

thanks that was informative, hearin it first hand from ya'll is refreshing also. before i die i must grow in hawaii. breeding genetics and how climate affects the plants is super interesting to me, thats why ive been subed to this thread for a while, like to keep my eye on it.

Dr. Greenhorn · Feb 26, 2013

dababydroman said:
thanks that was informative, hearin it first hand from ya'll is refreshing also. before i die i must grow in hawaii. breeding genetics and how climate affects the plants is super interesting to me, thats why ive been subed to this thread for a while, like to keep my eye on it.

dude, hawaii is like magical for growing. I love it here. evereything grows good and the when yoiu get to know the people that live here, you'll realize that hawaii is a very special place. maybe see you here one day huh.

Puna Bud · Feb 26, 2013

Dr. Greenhorn said:
never heard of the other strains. WW definitely, lol, but the others, no.. anyone heard of 'bloodweed' back in the day? also "deisel" was common on maui and was some of the best shit i smoked in my life. all i see now is sour deisel. also 'elephant' was another weed i always here about from the old timers.

I've heard of "true blood", or "Blood Sativa"from Maui. But it grew only on the slopes of Maui, and it had to be at least 4000 ft elevation if memory serves me correctly. With that fact in mind, Haleakala would be the only place "True Blood", or "Blood Sativa" could grow there at that height.

Dr. Greenhorn · Feb 26, 2013

Puna Bud said:
I've heard of "true blood", or "Blood Sativa"from Maui. But it grew only on the slopes of Maui, and it had to be at least 4000 ft elevation if memory serves me correctly. With that fact in mind, Haleakala would be the only place "True Blood", or "Blood Sativa" could grow there at that height.

ya I think that's the one puna. it supposed to look like shit but is killer smokes

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