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tardis
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http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/02/medical-marijuana-patients-in-hawaii-county-are-under-attack/
And they wonder why we need to Unionize to protect Medical rights of patients against corrupt police! Proof, Corrupt Police always lead to death and violent uprising in societies. I do not want to see my islands good hearted people turn violent in the streets in what is historically proven to happen in EVERY culture where police are oppressive to non-violent, non-property damaging citizenry. Seriously, give me liberty or give me death.
And they wonder why we need to Unionize to protect Medical rights of patients against corrupt police! Proof, Corrupt Police always lead to death and violent uprising in societies. I do not want to see my islands good hearted people turn violent in the streets in what is historically proven to happen in EVERY culture where police are oppressive to non-violent, non-property damaging citizenry. Seriously, give me liberty or give me death.
tardis
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http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/02/medical-marijuana-patients-in-hawaii-county-are-under-attack/
And they wonder why we need to Unionize to protect Medical rights of patients against corrupt police! Proof, Corrupt Police always lead to death and violent uprising in societies. I do not want to see my islands good hearted people turn violent in the streets in what is historically proven to happen in EVERY culture where police are oppressive to non-violent, non-property damaging citizenry. Seriously, "give me liberty or give me death." Patrick Henry.
And they wonder why we need to Unionize to protect Medical rights of patients against corrupt police! Proof, Corrupt Police always lead to death and violent uprising in societies. I do not want to see my islands good hearted people turn violent in the streets in what is historically proven to happen in EVERY culture where police are oppressive to non-violent, non-property damaging citizenry. Seriously, "give me liberty or give me death." Patrick Henry.
Dr. Greenhorn
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fuck da police. brad snow should beef up his security and get some dogs. sucks that it happened to him though. but he is not the first, and definitely not the last. even though he is "legal", I woulda never called the police. I woulda call some of my good friends and take things into my own hands. calling the police is asking for trouble.
tardis
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You know, I been thinking about this a lot. The problem isn't that "police are assholes" or some other excuse to what is going on to our people in Hawaii who are being punished simply for trying to live good unharmful lives without suffering. I mean I rant because some days I get up and my digestion causes my new body to just rant out in anger cause of my internal pain and nausea. It messes with you in ways you don't expect, especially when all your organs gotta figure out how to function when your body is 170 instead of 350 pounds as it had been for 14 years. BUT I think i got a solution to the problem which is our dysfunctional police structure rewards corrupt police and holds back police who try to do good for the community and actually protect and serve. Its just a begining, but hear me out and let me know what you think.
Say every year 50 people are randomly chosen on each island by an independent party, like a Jury Duty sorta thing (hear me out, no make laidat), these 50 random members of our population get access to all police records and get to call in police for interviews behind one way glass (protect their identities from undue pressure), and the job for say 3 months of these yearly gruops is they choose "The Most Honest Police Officer of the Island". This way it adds to the dysfunctional system and adds a way for GOOD police to have a way to get ahead in a system that normally holds them back. Thus adding a logical reason to be GOOD police who look out for every resident (you don't know who will be on that group of 50) and avoid corruption! Our current system only gets promotions and raises to police who do what they gotta do and be corrupt and take short cuts at the expensive of our tax paying citizen ohana. This way we make it BENEFICIAL for peopel to be good cops as that recognition can be big and used to get them those promotions and raises (though never in contract, the vote should be independent of any reward other than prominant Award).
What do you think, would that help the current problem of corruption and intimidation that seems to be rewarded and hurting our family and friends and causing undue violence in our communities? Anyone got other solutions i want to hear them?
Cause think about it, the police you meet when they are off duty, or the people you went to school with who became police, those people are good people and were nice and decent when you knew them yeah? the problem is their choice seems to be be a bad apple or don't get ahead, and its not fair for the people for that, but its also not fair for the career police to be held back for being the good helpful people they want to be.
Say every year 50 people are randomly chosen on each island by an independent party, like a Jury Duty sorta thing (hear me out, no make laidat), these 50 random members of our population get access to all police records and get to call in police for interviews behind one way glass (protect their identities from undue pressure), and the job for say 3 months of these yearly gruops is they choose "The Most Honest Police Officer of the Island". This way it adds to the dysfunctional system and adds a way for GOOD police to have a way to get ahead in a system that normally holds them back. Thus adding a logical reason to be GOOD police who look out for every resident (you don't know who will be on that group of 50) and avoid corruption! Our current system only gets promotions and raises to police who do what they gotta do and be corrupt and take short cuts at the expensive of our tax paying citizen ohana. This way we make it BENEFICIAL for peopel to be good cops as that recognition can be big and used to get them those promotions and raises (though never in contract, the vote should be independent of any reward other than prominant Award).
What do you think, would that help the current problem of corruption and intimidation that seems to be rewarded and hurting our family and friends and causing undue violence in our communities? Anyone got other solutions i want to hear them?
Cause think about it, the police you meet when they are off duty, or the people you went to school with who became police, those people are good people and were nice and decent when you knew them yeah? the problem is their choice seems to be be a bad apple or don't get ahead, and its not fair for the people for that, but its also not fair for the career police to be held back for being the good helpful people they want to be.
Dr. Greenhorn
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instead of "50 random people", why not just open up the police records for "all" to see.
tardis
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I agree, freedom of information. I'm not saying at all to restrict police files from public, i'm saying make the records easily available and required reading for those 50 people. out of 50 people a large enough portion of the random selection will be pot smokers and will blackball any officer who is too hard on them. Just like a large enough portion will be philipino or haole to protect from any abuses from an officer on any particular race. Letters of recommendation should go to the place they are required to meet.
All i'm saying is we need ways to reward police and make it make career sense to them to be Good and treat all members of the population with equal respect and equal rights. Its what they WANT to be able to do but those who do seem to be punished for it while those who don't look better on paper and get ahead based on number of busts vs how safe society really is for us who gotta live in it and pay for them (the cops AND the criminals locked up).
pepperbelly
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theres corruption , deception in all areas of life i dont care if ur cop or don trump , people are gunna get them and theirs. im a med patient and ive been waiting to catch a fool prowling in my garden, i dont have a fence , a dog , or a gun ..ive got hands of stone lol ..im pepperbelly ...but my 1st move by the gameplan is a 911 call..reporting a burglar on site or someone broke in2 my car and now he's trying to get into the house...all ya gotta say.
of course i feel sorry for snow , if he mentioned his medicine then he shot himself in the foot right there...its just rare unusual right now..i bet the operators jaw dropped like wtf ?
how many calls do they get of this nature ? count um on one hand ...and they arnt gunna jump on a situation like this ...im sure they have procedures and levels of crime and this one is prolly bank robbery level in their mind s...not a simple unit 12 this is 911 operator please save this dude that has a guy pickin buds...be smarter then the system....volitile situation...thing could explode in abig shootout..anywho
if i was in a wheelchair , i would have a dog ..if i was fat id have a 9mm.
if i was passive id jus claim it on my homeowners insurance...the fucker stealing snows weed is more to blame then the pigs.
of course i feel sorry for snow , if he mentioned his medicine then he shot himself in the foot right there...its just rare unusual right now..i bet the operators jaw dropped like wtf ?
how many calls do they get of this nature ? count um on one hand ...and they arnt gunna jump on a situation like this ...im sure they have procedures and levels of crime and this one is prolly bank robbery level in their mind s...not a simple unit 12 this is 911 operator please save this dude that has a guy pickin buds...be smarter then the system....volitile situation...thing could explode in abig shootout..anywho
if i was in a wheelchair , i would have a dog ..if i was fat id have a 9mm.
if i was passive id jus claim it on my homeowners insurance...the fucker stealing snows weed is more to blame then the pigs.
pepperbelly
Active Member
no agent can get passed my cannibears
DelSlow
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You callin me fat? Lol j/k.theres corruption , deception in all areas of life i dont care if ur cop or don trump , people are gunna get them and theirs. im a med patient and ive been waiting to catch a fool prowling in my garden, i dont have a fence , a dog , or a gun ..ive got hands of stone lol ..im pepperbelly ...but my 1st move by the gameplan is a 911 call..reporting a burglar on site or someone broke in2 my car and now he's trying to get into the house...all ya gotta say.
of course i feel sorry for snow , if he mentioned his medicine then he shot himself in the foot right there...its just rare unusual right now..i bet the operators jaw dropped like wtf ?
how many calls do they get of this nature ? count um on one hand ...and they arnt gunna jump on a situation like this ...im sure they have procedures and levels of crime and this one is prolly bank robbery level in their mind s...not a simple unit 12 this is 911 operator please save this dude that has a guy pickin buds...be smarter then the system....volitile situation...thing could explode in abig shootout..anywho
if i was in a wheelchair , i would have a dog ..if i was fat id have a 9mm.
if i was passive id jus claim it on my homeowners insurance...the fucker stealing snows weed is more to blame then the pigs.
But seriously, if your garden=your medication, I think you should have some extra security. Now we all know you can stand and bang pepper, you and doc, but it's always nice to have a little insurance. Sure, if the guy ripping my plants is a scrawny fucker, I'd wring his neck. But if it was a few big ass, iced out samoans stealing shit, not much you can do... If nothing else, shoot at the ground and make em dance.
Dr. Greenhorn
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you made me laugh when I read this post, hahahaha! +rep
Cooter@666
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I'm armed and dangerous, and I'll fucking blow holes in anybody stealing from me especially if they happen to be on my property. A farmer on Oahu was found NOT GUILTY for shooting and killing some tweaker that kept ripping off his equipment a while back by a jury of his peers. Never tell the cops he was stealing your weed, kill the intruder and put something of value in his pocks and state that was the reason for shooting him or her…..fuck’em!...nothing worse than a theif!
Dr. Greenhorn
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for the surfers out there....... the first kickflip pulled off on a surfboard caught on video for the volcom kickflip surf contest
[video=youtube;EpWZ_-hNKKs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpWZ_-hNKKs&feature=player_embedded[/video]
he pulled it off so daamn smooth, even though it was a chop hop.
[video=youtube;EpWZ_-hNKKs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpWZ_-hNKKs&feature=player_embedded[/video]
he pulled it off so daamn smooth, even though it was a chop hop.
Bobotrank
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oh yeah, saw this. soo sick. it WAS a chop hop, tho. but I'm not sure how else you'd do it? it'd be hard to do it busting a normal air, I'd imagine. . .
Dr. Greenhorn
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damn dude!! haven't seen you in awhile. hope all is good with you.