Hawaii Growers

whats an aku bird. i been away from the islands too long.

island rains said:

whats an aku bird. i been away from the islands too long.

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lol!! here is an example of an "aku bird"

......An Aku Bird arrives at the party empty-handed, but does not hesitate to stick its hand in the cooler for a cold one. And another. And another. And yet another. And when it's time to refill the cooler, an Aku Bird never chips in. Once the cooler is full again, an Aku Bird is usually the first one to grab another cold one. We all know an Aku Bird or two.

Happy Holiday Gang, I wanted to start my souvenir collection of beans and...well a little concerned about it.
I am medical, and in 808 so can anyone shed some light and reassurance.
Mahalo, Mahalo, Mahalo

Dr. Greenhorn said:

If you didn't know by now, this is more than an "outdoors grower thread". This has turned into the thread for what's up in HI. Might not be interesting to you, but it's interesting to other people in HI, as we have just witnessed.

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Dr Green says it right.. This is more than an outdoor thread, because I dont grow outdoors

herbsDaword said:

Happy Holiday Gang, I wanted to start my souvenir collection of beans and...well a little concerned about it.
I am medical, and in 808 so can anyone shed some light and reassurance.
Mahalo, Mahalo, Mahalo

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not sure what you mean by "shed some light and reassurance" but if you looking to purchase beans, attitude is a good place to get beans if you live out here in HI. I ordered through attitude choke times with no problems. I also ordered through nirvana a few times with no problems. medical or not, those 2 companies have "souvenir" beans available and they deliver out to the aloha state.

Dr. Greenhorn said:

Puna, you do know BJ is only 31 years old right? He isn't "old" or "washed up" by any means. Last I checked, 31 years old is "prime" too. in fact, fitch is the same age as BJ Penn if not a little older...


BJ loses 2 fights in a row and then all of a sudden he is lucky to fight Hughes? That's crazy talk!!! Hughes was lucky to fight BJ is more like it. Hughes may have been on a winning streak before BJ destroyed him but have you watched the fights that Hughes won in that span? it's no suprize to me Hughes got KTFO.

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brah, I don't think it's crazy talk at all. BJ needs someone to hold a fire under his okole to get him going. Fitch is not that fire! As Big John McCarthy put it when asked who the best in MMA. He said it hard not to mention GSP or Anderson Silva when talking about the best in the UFC. But he said the one with best skill sets in all of MMA has more losses than either Silva, or GSP, and that being BJ Penn.
'Doc', this is were BJ runs into problems. Without a doubt, BJ has an ego that huge. He's done well dealing with it in public, but in the gym is another story. BJ has been on top of the MMA fight game for so long. I believe his fat ego is blocking him from getting even better. Notice how all the top MMA fighters are well rounded these days. BJ needs to take that next step to the next level in order to remain at the top. But instead of doing that, he will stay at 170. This way he doesn't have to deal with Frankie Edgar, and moves him even further away from Jose Aldo. The best fighter in all of MMA. As Dana White said, "had BJ lost to Matt, he probably would have retired. Two looses in a row at 155, then move up to 170, then lose. Dana says he like BJ at 170. He said BJ is back to talking to himself before the fight Hughes fight. Well of course he didn't look crazy at Penn vs. Edgar II. BJ Penn had never been rocked like that before by a smaller person in his entire career. Doc, BJ's career is on the way down. He won't even return to 155 because of that.

I don't think he will be able to get past Jon Fitch. Sure I'd like to see it. I'm a BJ fan, but a realist too. At 170 Penn comes in sloopy looking. Kinda looks like an old Pit Bull, head still big but body getting flabby. When he fights at 155 he has to come in with a good training camp to make weight. At 170 he can take those weekends off during training and head to Kona once again. At 155 he could not. So I think his career in the UFC is close to ending Doc. I hope I'm wrong, but the last thing I wanna see is BJ becoming someone's punch bag, or ring bitch.

Happy Thanksgiving !

Im thankful for everything , this year i added a few more and one is the good ol' OUTDOOR thread here at Rollitup...so hope you folks have a good day here in the islands...keep on growin

Edgar never did "rock" BJ and the first rime edgar and Penn fought, in my opinion, and many others opinion, BJ won. Just like the 1st BJ vs GSP fight, BJ won.

I do agree with you on one thing, Fitch is not the guy to light BJ's fire.

And BJ's fight record is still spectacular. Every fight he had was against a top fighter. His only losses are to Hughes*a fight he was leading*, machida which went to a decision that Coulda went either way, pulver, 2 to Edgar*one which was contoversial*, 2 to GSP*another fight in which Penn shoulda got the decision in the first fight. And a draw to Uno which shoulda went to BJ.

Aloha and Mahalo,
Thanks for the Q and A, how critical when specifying tin and BreederPack option? Its that stuff important at all? NextQ.
What are the banks and the beans peeps like here in 808 and what are the ones to AVOID? Both indo and outdo souvenirs
Which souvenirs would breeders like, gorillas like and aero guys like?

These intrigued me...
AK47 Seriousseeds for outdoor?
Skunks
Afghanistan
SSH out
LSD
Acupulco Gold out
White widow-- theres like choke, which one is the real deal
Any Feed backs. I was checking Reserva pervada and wanted to know their reputation as well.
Jack Herer Will this do okay outside?
Arjan #1
Northern Lights- Can't find the good NL

I personally like my beans in the breeders pack. Not all seed banks deliver to HI so some beans going be hard to get. Attitude probably has the best selection that delivers to the 808. And pretty much any bean does well here outdoors. It all comes down to personal preference.

Happy Thanksgiving.... Toke up

Dr. Greenhorn said:

Edgar never did "rock" BJ and the first rime edgar and Penn fought, in my opinion, and many others opinion, BJ won. Just like the 1st BJ vs GSP fight, BJ won.

I do agree with you on one thing, Fitch is not the guy to light BJ's fire.

And BJ's fight record is still spectacular. Every fight he had was against a top fighter. His only losses are to Hughes*a fight he was leading*, machida which went to a decision that Coulda went either way, pulver, 2 to Edgar*one which was contoversial*, 2 to GSP*another fight in which Penn shoulda got the decision in the first fight. And a draw to Uno which shoulda went to BJ.

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I understand what you're saying brah. Trust me I do. I wanna see BJ win! But like I said I'm a realist. We know how good BJ can be when motivation becomes a factor. But without it BJ is in trouble,big trouble!. Why? In all honesty BJ's venture into the WW division before was only average at best. I believe he can only be a "gatekeeper" at that weight class. Let me tell you how I see the BJ vs. Fitch fight. I see BJ with his usual come to the middle of the ring ready to drop bombs. It's basically the only way he comes out these days. He'll be hell unleashed for the first three minutes. That's until Fitch grabs BJ and does what Fitch does best. GNP is the sure thing with Fitch. He's gonna get his takedowns with BJ that's for sure. Fitch is a big WW. He walks around at 210. Plus if there is any doubts to if Fitch will exchange with BJ. You only have to watch Fitch vs. Alves II. I only see bad things for BJ fighting Fitch. But, if I happen to be wrong and BJ wins. He will have to automatically be considered for a title fight. But the WW division is way stronger than what it was when BJ last visited it. I know you don't expect BJ to lose. But what if he does, then what do you think he should do?

In closing I hate to see the local boy lose. But I hate the excuses just as much maybe more. I'll watch the fight in silence more than likely because these are two of my favorite fighters to watch. Throw in Jose Aldo and Jon Jones and those are my 4 favorite fighters to watch in MMA.

If BJ loses, I'd still want to see him fight at welterweight. I'd want to see him fight some bangers though. Guys like condit, kampmann, thiago alves. what I really would like to see, and I'm sure BJ would scrap too, is for BJ to go up against Anderson silva at a catchwieght. But he needs to re-establish himself first before that ever happens. Anyways, I see the fight starting off the same way you said, but with BJ catching him on the stand up. If not BJ has to use his jiujitsu and attack with it. he hasn't used his jiujitsu in awhile. If he doesn't attack with his jiujitsu when they end up on the ground, it's gonna be a long night for BJ.


Happy thansgiving HI

herbsDaword said:

Aloha and Mahalo,
Thanks for the Q and A, how critical when specifying tin and BreederPack option? Its that stuff important at all? NextQ.
What are the banks and the beans peeps like here in 808 and what are the ones to AVOID? Both indo and outdo souvenirs
Which souvenirs would breeders like, gorillas like and aero guys like?

These intrigued me...
AK47 Seriousseeds for outdoor?
Skunks
Afghanistan
SSH out
LSD
Acupulco Gold out
White widow-- theres like choke, which one is the real deal
Any Feed backs. I was checking Reserva pervada and wanted to know their reputation as well.
Jack Herer Will this do okay outside?
Arjan #1
Northern Lights- Can't find the good NL

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I have never had a problem ordering from Attitude Seed Bank. They got a lot of great strains but also a lot of crappy strains so you gotta look into which breeders are good and which are bad. Breeders I would recommend would be Subcool, Dj Short, Reserva Privada, DNA. Breeders to avoid would be Greenhouse and most of the other stuff. If you see something that looks good ask int he forums about the breeder or the strain and someone who has tried it or had good/bad exprience should pop up replying about it.

Just Google Attitude Seedbank, they are great.

Dr. Greenhorn said:

If BJ loses, I'd still want to see him fight at welterweight. I'd want to see him fight some bangers though. Guys like condit, kampmann, thiago alves. what I really would like to see, and I'm sure BJ would scrap too, is for BJ to go up against Anderson silva at a catchwieght. But he needs to re-establish himself first before that ever happens. Anyways, I see the fight starting off the same way you said, but with BJ catching him on the stand up. If not BJ has to use his jiujitsu and attack with it. he hasn't used his jiujitsu in awhile. If he doesn't attack with his jiujitsu when they end up on the ground, it's gonna be a long night for BJ.


Happy thansgiving HI

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The woman "minister" who married my brother to his wife was Bj Penns ex-wife. The Minister was BJ Penns ex wife not my brothers wife.

herbsDaword said:

Aloha and Mahalo,
Thanks for the Q and A, how critical when specifying tin and BreederPack option? Its that stuff important at all? NextQ.
What are the banks and the beans peeps like here in 808 and what are the ones to AVOID? Both indo and outdo souvenirs
Which souvenirs would breeders like, gorillas like and aero guys like?

These intrigued me...
AK47 Seriousseeds for outdoor?
Skunks
Afghanistan
SSH out
LSD
Acupulco Gold out
White widow-- theres like choke, which one is the real deal
Any Feed backs. I was checking Reserva pervada and wanted to know their reputation as well.
Jack Herer Will this do okay outside?
Arjan #1
Northern Lights- Can't find the good NL

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Hey Herbs-

Just grew out Serious ak-47, shitty, not like the old days don't waste your $. Skunks are good, pure indicas might have bud rot issues during our rainy time. Mr Nices Black widow is the real WW. Reserva P is one of my favorites. Like the Dr. said most strains will do pretty good here, just comes down to what ya like. The best NL(imo) also comes from Mr Nices, but I grew some kick ass Nirvava NL too. Hope helps...

Thanks for the reply gang,
Im totally stoked to have internet connection.
Anyhow, I really thought that GreenHouse and Serious were among the pioneers of breeders.
And so, the search continues and any info is appreciated.
Which breeders Afghanistans are the best, I know Sensi and DnA gots.
Keep the info coming.
btw, anyone hear about the CannaTonic or Durga line?

Mahalo
my medical advocate teamsters

Important Question for ALL MEDICAL BLUE CARD HOLDERS.
What is the deal with the private shipping companies and the medical license. What Im trying to get at is it okay to xerox your card and place it in
your privately "fedex,ups,(NEVER USPS) and sending stuff, souvenirs, tobacco water pipes, etc..
And if there is anything we should NOT MENTION on the forums, please let me know cause like everyone else sometimes BLIND and overlook the obvious.
Mahalo to SurfedOt--GoodLookn' Kid, Thanks for the Knowledge-Appreciate the Aloha, there bro.

herbsDaword said:

Important Question for ALL MEDICAL BLUE CARD HOLDERS.
What is the deal with the private shipping companies and the medical license. What Im trying to get at is it okay to xerox your card and place it in
your privately "fedex,ups,(NEVER USPS) and sending stuff, souvenirs, tobacco water pipes, etc..
And if there is anything we should NOT MENTION on the forums, please let me know cause like everyone else sometimes BLIND and overlook the obvious.
Mahalo to SurfedOt--GoodLookn' Kid, Thanks for the Knowledge-Appreciate the Aloha, there bro.

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you mean like sending souvenir beans or other "stuff" and and putting a copy of your med card in the package ? I don't think it would do you any good if that's what you mean. you better off sending it anonymous and using fake addresses and aliases.

Yeah, things change over time with these companies. I'm starting to like the dutch seeds less and less. Buy American! Greenhouse company split up awhile back with the original breeder taking his genetics with him, Serious got raided lost their mothers, even Sensi is not ran like it used to be.

Attitude does have that special going buy a pack of Sleestackxskunk, or OG18xskunk, or kandykushxskunk and get a free 13 pack of Afghani seeds.

If ya don't have alot of growing experience ya probably don't need to buy the most exspensive stuff first. I'd start with Fem seeds, just makes it easier at first with our limits.