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SilkySmoke

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K, I sorry guys, but I gotta ask this super newbie question. Exactly what does "short season" and "long season" mean? I kinda have an idea, but I've never had a real good explanation? You guys seem to know your shht.

Anyone?

Thanks!
 
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aiwelaweka

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If you plant any where from July to February you girlies will flower and mature in. 90 days ( short season). If you plant sativas from April to July they are not going to be ready til late Sept early October ( long season). I hope this helps.
 
Dr. Greenhorn

Dr. Greenhorn

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With the costs of LED right now, you better off going with cfl's. Just as good for vegging and a hell of a lot cheaper! Cfl's cost a few bucks and are cheap on electric. LED's cost an arm an a leg! Every grow I seen with LED's has supplemental lighting for flowering, everyone! I seen awesome cfl grows from start to finish with just cfl's. Led's might be the future, but I'm livin' in the now
 
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Puna Bud

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Cru3l said:
Thanks the insight Puna. I'm very small scale and grow solely for medical purposes. My first grow started in December '09 with a UFO LED, and some CFLS. For a first timer I'm happy with my results. I yielded 5.08 Oz dried/cured, which might be a very small quantity for you guys but its alot for me.

The major benefit I see from LEDs are:

  • No need for high grade cooling and ventilation
  • Extremely low electricity bills
  • No need to replace parts after each grow (Ballasts, Bulbs)
  • No special electricity requirements. Uses standard wall socket
  • LED's cover all Red & Blue Spectrums
Yes, I agree LED's are a bit expensive. But after one grow, it paid it self off. Think about how much electricity I saved! I do agree that they will get better. I predict that in about 2 years, HPS will be a thing of the past.

Note: There's a massive misconception that LED's are only good for flowering. Thats just false.

At the end of the day, do whats best for you.

-- Peace
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listen, 5 oz is nothing to sneeze at. Well done brah, for a first grow that's excellent!:clap::clap::clap: Keep up the good work!

Note to Note: Brah it's not a misconception at all! The two to three comapanies in China that make up 75% of the LED market automatically put cheap ineffective diodes into their products to keep profits up.
To best honest with you, it's just not there yet(Da technology). I know more people with UFO's in boxes stored in closets., than I do people using them in closets! It comes down to the integrity of the business. That's why I've always put hydro/grow shops on the bottom of the food chain in this industry, followed by seedbanks.

Sure you can get buds from LED flowering lights, pop corn buds that is! Hey, and that's okay, but there is no mistaking a LED pop corn bud from 1000 or 600 watt HPS donkey dick,..no mistaking!
When I was thinking about purchasing LED, I heard all your points, and even ran with some of them too. But if you do the math Cru31, LED can't even compete with a 4oo watter for output.

I don't have any special high grade cooling system with my setup either. I got two rooms three rooms in all. Not one of them has an AC?!

Who needs to replace ballast & bulbs every grow?

If LED covered all the Red & Blue spectrums, would they have donkey dicks too?

electric bill is really LED's only postive point at this point in time that I can see Cru31.
Could you post a few pics of finished buds you harvested from your first op,...please?

Bottomline is if your happy that's truly all that matters, right?
 
Cru3l

Cru3l

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Puna Bud said:
listen, 5 oz is nothing to sneeze at. Well done brah, for a first grow that's excellent!:clap::clap::clap: Keep up the good work!

Note to Note: Brah it's not a misconception at all! The two to three comapanies in China that make up 75% of the LED market automatically put cheap ineffective diodes into their products to keep profits up.
To best honest with you, it's just not there yet(Da technology). I know more people with UFO's in boxes stored in closets., than I do people using them in closets! It comes down to the integrity of the business. That's why I've always put hydro/grow shops on the bottom of the food chain in this industry, followed by seedbanks.

Sure you can get buds from LED flowering lights, pop corn buds that is! Hey, and that's okay, but there is no mistaking a LED pop corn bud from 1000 or 600 watt HPS donkey dick,..no mistaking!
When I was thinking about purchasing LED, I heard all your points, and even ran with some of them too. But if you do the math Cru31, LED can't even compete with a 4oo watter for output.

I don't have any special high grade cooling system with my setup either. I got two rooms three rooms in all. Not one of them has an AC?!

Who needs to replace ballast & bulbs every grow?

If LED covered all the Red & Blue spectrums, would they have donkey dicks too?

electric bill is really LED's only postive point at this point in time that I can see Cru31.
Could you post a few pics of finished buds you harvested from your first op,...please?

Bottomline is if your happy that's truly all that matters, right?
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Puna, thanks for being super courteous. I'm a beginner grower. With only 1 grow under my belt, my opinion is a bit inflated. I have never grown HPS, so I cant compare.

All I know, is that LED works for me and I'm happy with the results. Maybe sometime down the road I'll venture toward HPS. LED + CFL seems to be the economical route for me. I already have all the lights I need, so there's no reason to change it all now.

Check the Imageshack link I posted below. Its my first grow, and its small scale. BE GENTLE! I can assume most of you guys are growing lbs off each plant. I have a long way to go, and learn.

http://img15.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=cimg0350i.jpg

--Peace
 
kkday

kkday

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Puna what strain??? What seed comp?


Cruel were (well Im) not getting a lb a plant it's kinda hard, I wuld say Imposable with out a indoor start or unless it's a sativa. Sativa will get ya a elbow
 
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